Given the restrictions arising from the EFL squad size ‘cap’, then in reality that is about all we can do.
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Most liked posts in thread: Poll: If we don't go up, would you give Adams a second season, based on what we've seen so far?
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Ulysses S Grant Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
Yes. We need stability
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NorthernMonkey Squad PlayerP.L. 20/21 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter
If Adams isn't pulling his weight they'd be the first to let the whole forum know.WilsdenBantam likes this. -
donhutchinsaffro Regular StarterP.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter
you could ask will he stay ... not sure he will I want him here but its has a bit of the Hopkin scenario about him...... stay yes will he not sure
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Johnny Yen Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
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Sparks and the club believed that they could sign cheap lower league players and Adams with his record could mold these cheap players in to a promotion team, It was never going to work but Sparks sold the dream to us, This I believe is behind Adams comments on the radio
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WilsdenBantam Squad PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Bronco likes this.
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bantamlad92 Squad PlayerP.L. 21/22 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Entrant
What have you seen so far with the way he manages us that suggests he can take City up?
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bantamlad92 Squad PlayerP.L. 21/22 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Entrant
I always find it's good to hear others viewpoints rather than jumping to conclusions.
That being said, last night was the lowest point for me walking out of VP since pre-pandemic.
I do really hope he can turn this around but I've just got that all too familiar gut-wrenching feeling that we're on another road to nowhere. A glimpse of hope and then the same old outcome. -
I'd say yes. I don't know how promotion can be the aim/expectation when the budget doesn't look like a promotion budget. Adam's got Morecambe promoted on a small budget but that was in an odd season. Expecting him to repeat the same is a bad idea.
The squad is very poor. We recruited terribly and chose players that nobody else wanted. It is no coincidence our best player came from the division above and cost us something. Talent costs! I would be surprised if any of the players we recruited were even scouted. Instead of recruiting the obvious talent in the leagues, we look for the cheapest players available with the only requirement being they've kicked a football in the EFL before. We have a team of squad fillers and somehow the expectation is promotion. Canavan, Paudie (inconsistent), Cooke, Vernam, Ridehalgh (only going forward), and Sutton (messy sometimes but has tenacity and pace) are the only players I can look at and see them being part of a winning team. I haven't included Angol because he is injury prone. Crankshaw would have been included however the powers that be thought it'd be a good idea to sell a proper winger without a suitable replacement ready, when we run a system that requires wingers. So now we have the absolute joy of watching whatever Gillead (recruited from the highly talented, successful, and plundered Scunthorpe 20/21 side) is supposed to be, shooting every time he shouldn't, and passing/crossing to someone in a worse position when he could shoot instead. If the man was taking a penalty he'd lay it off for someone.
Anyway I have more faith in Adams than I do the players as I feel he has achieved far more and has shown proven ability. I don't know why those in charge felt it was such an important requirement to sign a manager with proven ability and success, and then turn around and sign any old dross that'll come through the door and expect it to work. Recruitment at the senior level has been shambolic for years and years and our only solution is to stand by crap players and sack the manager. 6 managers in 3 years.
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I’d give him 2 seasons and then reevaluate. It’s glaringly obvious that we are missing a bit of quality, especially in the final third. If we are able to address that I think we would be competing for the top 3. Most games this season we have created enough chances and opportunities to win more games than we have.
I trust that Adams knows what is missing and what needs to be done (the change in the scouting/recruiting department shows this) so I think we need to give him the time to fix it. It was never going to be quick and easy given the years of decline. -
bantam2708 Squad PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Winner
At the minute, I would say yes. I was quite vocal that I didn't want Adams here but I've been pleasantly surprised by the style of play in the main, despite the results. There is some hope that with better players, that style can yield results.
But we have played some utterly crap teams so far and the next 5 or 6 are tough. If we're as poor in thise games as we were yesterday, then I may change my mind. -
Flying Duck Impact SubP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
If he can get a full squad that he's happy with and trusts to do a job, I'd back him.
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bantamlad92 Squad PlayerP.L. 21/22 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Entrant
By making statements like "we don't have the structure or ambition to get promoted" you are basically implying that we are content with lurking in League Two oblivion - I'm not sure that's the case.
Our ST uptake will eventually start to dwindle even with cheaper prices, some people's interest will become irreversible, and we would miss out on a lot more financially by staying in League 2, when you consider the growth that would come with being in League One (extra TV money, extra crowds, extra interest, more merch sales, being able to increase ST uptake, matchday revenue, etc etc).
We need to get out of this league ASAP, at any cost. I'm not sure we have the time to give a manager 3 years in the hope he can change things around. Many managers at this level come in and make an immediate impact - I'm absolutely certain Derek Adams, who had the whole summer before the season started lets not forget, was expected to be doing much better than he currently is. -
It’d be a no based upon what seen so far but I am willing to give him a second season-provided we don’t look like going down as this should give him more time to build a decent squad
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XCIV_Bantam Squad PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020
originally Adams played him as a CB before moving him to DM at Plymouth. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yann-songoo/profil/spieler/144341
it's Adams that is publicly slating new signings, it's Adams that is making public allegations about problems behind the scenes
we all know the squad isnt up to snuff. threkland played a horrid game not seen much of laverly either. personally i think hes a bit annoyed he was promised decent signings and its not the case. you are right he is making public allegations but when the crowd quickly turns on you like city do. -
Ulysses S Grant Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
Last season we were a very poor team that had a brief purple patch. That takes some turning and Adams has to be given at least another two transfer windows to do that. We wont go up this year so progress in terms of league position has to be made. Give him until Xmas 2022 and if we aren't challenging for promotion then, we need to start planning for a change in summer 2023.
Parky got that. The only reason to get shut any earlier is if our FL status is at risk.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
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