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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Aaron Baker, Jan 25, 2022.

  1. Offcomedun

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    The hotel restaurant closed at nine, I believe. Starmer and co were working at a different location, not the hotel, until well after that. So how is it relevant?
     
  2. Clity

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    The irony in all this is that if Keir is found to have broken the law he will probably resign.

    If he doesnt resign all the tory boys on here will be calling for his head. Whilst instantly contradicting themselves regarding their saviour the convict johnson.
     
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    I don't think Johnson went on the holier than thou acting stunt starmer did .The hypocrisy of the last few months of Starmer and the labour party is a disgrace and what got me angry about this was Starmer standing in the commons and bringing up terrible covid stories of people suffering knowing he was in the wrong.
     
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    Also Starmer claims he only ordered takeway because no pubs were open.Infact more than 10 restaurants or pubs were serving food within 15mins walk of Durham miners hall.
     
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    Boris wrote, broke and lied in the commons. Any other PM would have resigned. The two cant compare.

    Starmer was at work, then ate some food, maybe they shouldnt have had beer etc. but I am going to guess the police wont find any broken laws.

    If you try compare the two then its just a show of bias in my opinion.

    Downing street parties, they shipped in a beer fridge, broke a swing and had a right jolly. The comparison with starmer is simply mud slinging. Deep down you know it.
     
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    But why would you want to go to the pub or restaurants when you have 30 people and indoor socialising was banned at the time.
     
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    But why would you want to go to the pub or restaurants when you have 30 people and indoor socialising was banned at the time.
    Show of bias :grinning: have you read the post you just posted.I have never said Johnson hasn't done no wrong but johnson never went on it's a resigning matter unlike holier than thou Starmer who staked his career on it :laughing: and put himself in the sh!tter.
     
  8. Aaron Baker

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    The problem with complaining about mudslinging is that the beer fridge incident has nothing at all to do with Johnson. That's mud slinging.
     
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    The miners weren't without fault but it was politically motivated by Thatcher, she saw what happened under Heath and stock piled coal, brought Ian MacGregor in as the head of the National Coal Board to smash the NUM, Arthur Scargill didn't take to him calling him "the American butcher of British industry" after MacGregor in one of his early interviews quoted "Yorkshire miners were less productive than women miners in the US" having had a little experience with regards America's unions they be the same laws or H&S rules in the states, ironically a law was passed on 4 August 1842, that stopped women and children under ten years from working underground in mines in Britain, yet America still had women down the pits hardly something to boast about 100 years later women were still mining ?.
    I still believe if Scargill had gone to the TUC for support he would have got the TUC's backing, unfortunately at the last Miners conference a motion was passed that if ANY mine was threatened with closure the NUM would come out without a National ballot, MacGregor and the NCB announced that the agreement they'd reached after the 1974 strike was now obsolete, unfortunately the NUM did not have a National ballot so in certain parts of the country miners still went into work, once that happened the striking miners started picketing those pits, the rest we know is history but IMO as with the Hillsborough disaster this deserved a public enquiry, the Labour party never pushed the situation and instead of Thatcher being shown for what she was a statue was erected to her honour of her time as Prime Minister.
     
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    That's a worrying comment, if the Tories forced Boris out there are plenty to take his place, not sure Labour have that luxury with the party.
    Looks like more information will be coming out soon for the police to investigate, sharpen your sword Sir Keir....
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10793159/Keir-Starmers-Beergate-story-blown-apart-leaked-Labour-memo.html?ito=windows-widget-push-notification&ci=519137
     
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    We still sure about these things after the leaked memo and the apparent witness coming forward in The Times yesterday? It isn't half starting to look like a pre-planned 80 minute long beer and a curry at the end of a work day - they've even printed it in black and white!

    Also realised yesterday that the party was so "sneaky" they actually told the media about it and it was reported openly at the time. Nobody actually cared.

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    We'll have to see what emerges when the police interview all those involved.
     
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    All in all it's a shitshow...who do we vote for that will bring some integrity and proper leadership? I don't trust any of them whichever colour tie they wear
     
  14. Tony Wilkinson

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    Sir Nige, if we could find him a seat, would do for me...
     
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    It's always your consistency that I'm really impressed with :joy:
     
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    I don't think anyone actually does care. The way this has been manipulated has pushed the slice of Cake as the major breach to cover the others up which are far far worse. What's the latest, Boris was at the Abba Party but only to interview Carrie's friend for a job. I mean thats on par with driving to Barnard Castle to test your eyesight.

    Due to Boris denying any of this ever happened is the reason why all this is still in the news today. I mean The Sun are having a go at Starmer now when their own deputy editor was part of the suitcase of booze shitshow on the eve of Prince Philip's funeral that Boris had to ring up the queen to apologise for.
     
  17. Aaron Baker

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    To me people are reaping what they sowed.

    You're right, nobody cared in the first place. The birthday cake thing was reported at the time, the Starmer thing was reported at the time. Nobody cared and nobody thought they were breaches of the rules.

    We then were hit with "Boris held parties" which to me conjured up pictures of Tory donors being fed vol-au-vents and champagne in secret proper parties.......but it's actually nothing like that at all. Boris denied he's ever had parties and to this point they still haven't shown him to be present at one single actual party by any normal definition. He's bang to right about saying that no breaches of the rules occurred in Downing Street though but how important that is I'm not actually sure if he wasn't there.

    So, we've now got into this ludicrous position where any incidental social interaction between people who were working together anyway is seen as akin to a party which is bonkers. But the issue for people who pushed this hard line criteria and got everyone angry about bog-standard interactions is that it's impossible to actually live by those standards and we're now judging things which are completely skewed by the passing of time.

    We're in this position because minor interactions have been pushed to be major stories and senior people have demanded resignations for things that they themselves have probably done. It's a horror show and a complete waste of time and resources but to me it's because a mountain was made out of a molehill at the beginning.
     
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    did Boris deny any of it happened ? Or just that in his opinion, or that of his advisors, no rules were broken? Which from his apology he still believes
     
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    The whole lockdown was bollocks. People literally under house arrest. I am enjoying watching people fight back against this tyranny though.
     
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    One consolation though is that they will never be able to implement any further lockdowns in the future...
     
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