Next home game, protest

probably around christmas/january - depends what happens, if we lose 7 in a row or something, and there's still talk/gossip/rumours of fall-outs, people leaving etc then it would happen before that.

 

Tawheed. But once again you are putting forward an opinion and calling your view of what happened 'evidence'. I still just see an opinion...I don't see hard evidence. The fact that Edin stated he was "encouraged' by the level of applicants is very different to actually offering someone the job. I personally have been very encouraged looking through a pile of CVs but once I sat down and met the applicants have been thoroughly disappointed. PLUS he is clearly not going to go to the press and state. "The level of applicants has been extremely poor. No way are any of these ejjits getting a job here". hhhmmmm really, are you sure that isn't how it works....fer crissakes.

 

You need to try my theory @Ricc see Norman's name as poster then think it's all a load of ball cocks and skip it....

 

Depends on how influential you think Fordy and the protests are. If you believe they have a lot of influence we could be changing manager every 4 weeks.

 

You don’t half write some guff sometimes. Us ‘knockers’ and ‘teeth grinders’ could see what was wrong when the appointment was made, no hindsight needed. The way you are looking at it Collins was only ever a temporary measure because Rahic was waiting for Hopkin to finally say yes. Quite plausible apart from Rahic threw him a three year deal, hardly a temporary measure. We can all make things up from reading between the lines, just like i have just done, just like you did with your post i originally posted.
But this is fact, Rahic appointed a complete unknown with no managerial experience, had not one days experience of coaching an adult football league side even as an assistant. He then saddles him with an apprentice equally with no football league managerial experience at all and a guy coming back from illness who is the chief scout/recruitment. And then sacks the
Head Coach after six games quoting ‘results weren’t what we expected.’ Well no sh/t sherlock. Had Rahic employed a coach with some sort of experience and we had the same start to the season he could quite rightly lay a high percentage of the blame on the coach, he’s given him some half decent players to work with, we should be showing progress. But he didn’t he expected instant results from the football equivalent of the chuckle brothers. So much for ‘long term progress. And guess what. He employed them, one of them never even applied for the job, i suspect neither did the other two.
Do you know what? Us teeth grinders and knockers. We know a bit about football. A bit more than Rahic by the looks of it.

 

Ouch....but clearly I got a reaction thereby indicating that you do read my submissions.

I would suggest you broaden your horizons old chap. If you only read what you agree with then the world clearly reflects and confirm your opinions.

 

As I said, it really depends on the level of evidence you're after. Do you at least accept that it's both logical and plausible and not quite the "milkman hear from so and so" narrative that you've given?

 

@Norman Corner To add onto this, in the T and A article I'm reffering too, Rahic tells us that he's already had thorough chats with all the candidates, so the second part of your post isn't true.

 

ooohhh Rogered Tart knows a bit about football. He needs to get together with Edin they have a lot in common.

 

hhhmmm ok. Still isn't 'evidence' that he was turned down though is it. First interview, second interview. I am not saying no one turned us down. Clearly someone on the list may not have liked Edin or the template he was looking to put in place. However I don't buy into the moaner brigades view that everyone (including their dogs and mums) turned us down..... everyone. Because that is what you need to accept if you believe them. No one....NO ONE wanted the job because of Edin.

However apparently Hopkin does.... as did McCall, as did Collins....so we have three who are 'evidence' that not everyone....EVERYONE....turns us down.

 

Touche .......

And yet times and views change, Norman.
The football world will not be oblivious to the goings on at VP.

 

I'm not sure every single one turned us down, but clearly a lot did as Rahic was happy with the applicants and none of them took the job. As your pervious explanation is incorrect, how do you explain it?

 

I’m surprised he didn’t ask me to take on the job Norm, i have no experience and didn’t apply for it so i would have been a perfect candidate.

 

You actually make some good points, but will you at least admit the appointment of Collins was made out of desperation and an enormous mistake, at the time of appointment and now.

 

I have no intention of getting off the Rahic out bus, but he's bought himself a few more stops. Hopkin has a decent honeymoon period because he's experienced. If he has us top half/ top ten by 1st Jan we have a great chance of pushing on and if the signs are that Rahic really has given him full control of football matters then we can let sleeping dogs lie.

Lest we forget, back in 2011 it looked as if Lawn was messing/ influencing team affairs by bringing in Christie who "allegedly" had the final say on all football matters. Parky stopped that in it's tracks. If Hopkin can control Rahic and pull the team together we've got ourselves a good one and only lost out on 10% of the season.

My big regret in this is that for what ever reason, Killa became the final bit of collateral damage, if only he'd sacked Collins after Wycombe and found a way to keep Killa I'd be a lot happier. As it is, conehead number one has gone and for that I rejoice,

 

Yes I think it is absolutely plausible that some on the list of applicants decided after meeting with Edin that they did not like him and therefore declined to go any further in the process. Clearly it would be ridiculous to not admit that as it happens in every walk of life. The difference is that the story being pushed on here is not some it is everyone, no one would work with him, we couldn't get anyone and the all around the league everyone was telling anyone not to apply (I may have overstretched it there for dramatic purposes but you get my drift). And although my '...milkmans dad' story was, well, over the top, there were indeed posts to this forum that bore those hallmarks. I know someone who knows someone.....

But let's get back to the point at hand.

And therefore you would also accept that it is logical and plausible that during the interview phases we turned people down because they didn't fit what we wanted? We didn't believe they could deliver? And it is indeed quite plausible that we turned down far more than turned us down?

 

Wow, 13 paragraphs and no mention of Stuart McCall.
Congratulations!

 

What a dick - ed

 

Football managers are as fickle as football fans and in most cases as addicted. When they are out of work, their fix has been cut off and most will take a job, any job, if it's the one on offer. Love him or loathe him, Grayson stands out from that bunch as he's not the little tart who will work for anyone who pays him. He's got (what he considers anyway) high standards and only takes the right job for him at that point, especially having been bitten once.

I suspect had we offered the job to Ferguson or McCann or even Hopkin back in June they would have taken it.

 

I think the Collins appointment has turned out to be a mistake....can't argue with that at all and it did look a bit of a desperation call. (Being frank when it was announced I was a bit flummoxed but also a bit excited. Someone new might bring new idea and views, not encumbered with the old time manager view, to the club. It didnt work.... we move on.)

Back to the summer interviews. However we don't know who applied and what happened in the interview process so.....maybe .... (there's that word again) it might be that he didn't want to appoint a manager that he didn't really believe in and saddle the club with a long term, expensive, engagement when he knew that none of them gave him what he was looking for.

So he took a short term, won't overall hurt the club, inexpensive gamble on an internal appointment. If it worked he is seen as a genius. If it doesn't he simply clears the decks and moves on. It won't hurt BCFC image too much and it won't (if the salary numbers are to be believed and there may be clauses limiting payouts in their contracts) end up costing us much financially.

He clearly recognised some weeks ago that it wasn't working and has been beavering away behind the scenes to get Hopkin lined up and ready to go because you can't turn around contract negotiations that quick!