Newcastle Utd Owners

Great! So puff your chest out, roar a bit, do a bit of marching, refuse to turn up and the club owners suddenly say 'oh they're not happy, I'll sell'?

It all gets a bit of media coverage and nothing else remotely positive.

Newcastle, actually took more than 10 years and the only reason they are now the richest club in the world - is because they were one of the most attractive clubs to buy, showing that the fans were wrong.

Villa were similar about Doug Evans. Sold to an American who said all the correct warm words, ended up in The Championship for the first time in around 30 years.

When you look into the detail this been "serious" doesn't add up to a row of beans, unless you're serious about taking over.

 

The Newcastle owners are primarily in this to make money and nothing else. They ain't going there to throw away their millions, they see a huge potential in what is a massive growing market. There's a reason no one serious comes in for little old Bradford, no owner coming here is ever gonna make serious money buying the club. Why put yourself in that position buying a club in a dying city with little prospects with a fan base that will generally hate you for not blowing your inheritance?

 

The Newcastle owners are primarily in this to make money and nothing else. They ain't going there to throw away their millions, they see a huge potential in what is a massive growing market. There's a reason no one serious comes in for little old Bradford, no owner coming here is ever gonna make serious money buying the club. Why put yourself in that position buying a club in a dying city with little prospects with a fan base that will generally hate you for not blowing your inheritance?

 

Maybe I give you too much credit cos you can't be that stupid.

 

I don't think the Newcastle owners are in it to make money.

They are certainly going to have to spend a lot. It's taken Man City a long time and a lot of investment to get to a break even figure.

The narrative I've heard in the media is that they are moving into Sports to try and take the attention away from their human rights record.

 

Nobody goes into business not to make money. It might take them 10 years but their ultimate aim is that Newcastle directly and indirectly make them money. Even if its just a loss leader. I know of someone working at another club and that is the aim of their owners. Big investment short term in off the field developments for long term gain. That's not to say it will be a success but that is the aim.

 

I believe this is the mindset of FGR’s owners, it’s losing money but as part of the broader Ecotricity group it’s beneficial.
As for Newcastle, I think I saw yesterday that the PL’s overseas TV rights alone are £5.4bn to go with the £5.1bn domestic TV rights. Newcastle dropping £90m to stay in the league is small change when the rewards for a top four finish and CL football are so big.

 

The Newcastle owners are the richest in the world and make Man City’s and PSG’s look small fry. I can’t see money being their motivation, personally.

They’re just playing at being an owner and are one of the rare few who have the luxury of wealth to be in a position to do so.

Whatever they lose off NUFC is easily offset by their other business interests.

 

My words exactly Mike. Its all about pushing the eco brand along with FGR and fair play to Vince for being the first one to do it. Something you will see other clubs imitate in the next decade. I mean, if it wasn't for the money why didn't the Newcastle owners come and buy us for a measly £10 million or so?

 

You being a businessman and all that, I though you'd be able to see why big business has jumped on board at the likes of Man City and now Newcastle. The owners of the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool own blue chip sports companies across the world, same with Man United. Do you really think they are buying up sports clubs across the planet to lose money? Deary me fordy.

 

You don’t get rich and stay rich by throwing money away. Newcastle’s owners will have one eye at least partly on sportswashing, but they’re there to make money. Make no mistake about that. They’re not Geordies or have some romantic link to Tyneside, they’re business people in it for the long term.
Abramovich has spent £1.5bn at Chelsea, but the club is worth over £3bn. That’s about £100m a year in growth for him, in very crude terms 5-7% yield. That’s a decent return. That’s the PIF plan for Newcastle. It’s also why selling fourth division clubs is hard unless you’ve a local lad done good story. The money is all in the PL and the losses are in the Championship

 

Why go through the hassle of three promotions and having to watch tinpot football for those early years. We are a challenge for an owner who isn’t filthy rich but has a plan to develop - like buying a house at auction that needs doing up.

these Saudi’s are only interested in the top flight and they take the quicker route. A season to stay up, maybe a season to aim for top six ala West Ham (but will prob end up midtable themselves) then a season to go for it and, in their heads, they might have a team in the CL.

They only want that end product - the razzmatazz of the CL, but they’ve no interest in doing the graft. Its like a homeowner buying a grand spanking new house. Now they just need to add some decent furniture.

 

Their owners are PIF. Public Investment Fund. The Investment bit is the clue. They’re there to make a return on their money.

 

I agree, bit some don't seem to realise that it's deep down a business decision. If it wasn't about money why don't the new owners charge the Newcastle fans a tenner a ticket? Bottom line is they've invested £300 million and either directly or indirectly they want a want return on that investment even if it takes them a long term plan to do it.

 

I take some of those points but i think they’ll splash the cash short term and see how the project is shaping up.

They are trying to transform a northern club into a powerhouse and their location will always count against them if they need are up against London clubs when competing for top players - they’ll end up paying a premium to try land them as a result, as they will also do while they aren’t in the CL, just like Man Utd had to do for a while.

United are a massive global brand whereas Newcastle aren’t, and it will take time for NUFC to grow. Will these owners stick around long enough to add value to the club like you say Roman has at Chelsea? I’m not sure.

Leicester was a freak year - the biggest shock in football history - but clubs just don’t generally break that stranglehold.

I think they’ll continue to chuck money at it then realise the project is bigger than they imagined.

The longer they aren’t in the CL, the more impatient they’ll get, and the more chance they’ll have had enough and sell up to pursue other interests.

If they can get some better PR out of their involvement, as Hudders mentions above, in the meantime, then I’m sure they won’t be fussed over throwing away a few hundred million, which is a drop in the ocean for owners with their wealth.

There are only two Champions League spots up for grabs in reality and United, Chelsea and Spurs are all better placed for the next few years to grab them.

They are going to have to wait a long time before they are ready to break into the top four and the owners will see the decent TV revenues coming in. Until then they’re just another lower table PL side.

 

I agree on the last point. They’ll need to be in the CL to make their investment worthwhile. How many years are they gonna have to wait for that?