I'm not an employee but out of respect for our Club and the protection of those who are employed I am resisting a huge temptation whilst sitting in the Spanish sun for a month reading the trials and tribulations foreign owners have brought to FC Malaga and the Daily Mail piece on my beloved Club of 63 years. I think over the next few days it looks as if more will unfold. If only people would accept experienced advice the world would be a better place and business would run smooth in my not insubstantial experience.
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In my business and professional career I didn't get to the top of a FTSE 50 Company and stay there by being a slime ball, quite the opposite and 9 years plus on from retirement I have kept a good reputation both in that Company and with other groups I have worked with and for since, including the F.A. and E.F.L., so I narrow your comments to my 7 years on the BCFC Board which I joined in July, 2009 and left in June, 2016 under the new owners restructure. Since then I have been an active Ambassador and outlined some of the works I have carried out over the last 12 months or so in another post which I'm not repeating here.
As to Stuart, you may know that at the time we Directors took it in turn to write a piece under the heading 'From the Boardroom'. On of my turns came after we had lost at Carlisle in the Johnstone Paints Trophy, 3-0, I think on a lousy night which was matched by our performance. We, the Board were all unhappy but just as much for people, no doubt you were one, who had travelled and got nothing except, perhaps, flu.
If you have the programme with my notes you will see I was critical of the performance and Stuart took exception which he voiced at the next Board Meeting when it was agreed that the matter was not that important for the Board but that Stuart and I would discuss later. Incidentally Stuart had not read the article, merely been told about it with some spin. I advised him to read it before we met, I think that took place a couple of weeks later when I saw him together with Wayne Jacobs and discovered to my regret that he had still not read the article, the matter was left there.
When Stuart returned in 2016 we had a laugh about it as I was wearing my building site gear with the Dressing Room works I was supervising and Stuart's comment was along the lines of "Do I need a tin hat as well".
We have always got on, my relationship with him in the last spell was good, working for his benefit on disciplinary matters, etc.
With respect your comments are wide of the mark and ill informed, I don't expect an apology but I know I am not what you say I am.
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And of course it's social media (and I include BT in that definition) which adds fuel to the fire of the gossip, the rumours, the lies which circulate around the club. It's too easy for people to make unfounded claims and for the gullible to reinforce those claims without questioning the underlying facts. And of course since they are rarely ever proven by those itk regulars and prefaced with the usual disclaimer of 'I've heard that ..' or 'I'm led to believe that ..' or some unknown source has spilled the beans, there is little comeback on those regularly making those claims.
There are clearly many things wrong with the way the club is being managed at the moment and much of that responsibility has to lie with the owners. Rahic in particular seems to have made many mistakes in the recent past which many fans disagree with at the moment. And I've said previously that I share that viewpoint. In the future, he might prove to be right or he might not be and only time will tell. But stoking the fires because it helps with another agenda or the itk regulars believe they are somehow more credible posters because of it isn't helping matters at the mo.Jason McEvan, Inspector, Torpey-do and 13 others like this. -
Regardless of whether you liked him or not this was James Mason's dream job, a job he loved and a club he loves. Don't tell me he left for any other reasons than Rahic driving him out, and as for this consultancy business, load of bollocks in my opinion. just words to try to reassure the supporters.
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People can't go 10 minutes without trying to start off some sort of shite rumour. Very very boring now.
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Owners, directors, managers, coaches and players come and go, supporters are forever and it's that love for the club that makes them concerned about speculation and rumours.
You're right in that we can't change anything, we only hope it's a change for the better.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...The Original EB, RonnieBrown, Foghornleghorn and 8 others like this. -
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Since the the current owners took over, I think its safe to say that there are far less people in the know, and even those in the know, know less than they used to.
In my case, I know a few people who work at the Club (well, 'worked' is more appropriate in most cases now). So, I do pick up a few bits from time to time. Therefore, today's announcement came as no surprise.
I'm certainly not going to comment on the details of what I've been told but, suffice it to say, the general message coming out of the Club is the one painted by @wetherbywhaler on here (I mention him because he's the one person, from inside the Club, who's gone public and identified himself). Others, on here, have clearly heard similar things from inside the Club.
For the time being we are all going to have to get used to the fact that Bradford City, under the current owners, is a very different beast to what we have been used to.
It doesn't mean that the Club won't be successful, but it does mean we are all going to have used to Edin's and Stefan's way of doing things.
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if anyone still had any doubt, surely this farewell video shows that he didn't want to have to leave but felt he was left with no other real option, and the question people should be asking is why.
I'm gutted for him. top bloke and did a terrific job, in increasingly difficult circumstances. wish him all the best.broadsword, bantamdave41, TallinnBantam and 8 others like this. -
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There can be little doubt that the owners' style and approach is significantly different to that of previous owners.
As I've said elsewhere on this forum, I am also worried by the comments coming from those with strong connections to the Club. However, I also note the comments, others have made, that significant change can upset people, especially those who've sat in their comfort zone for a long time.
At the end of the day, the owners will, mostly, be judged on what they deliver. There are encouraging signs regarding improvements to the infrastructure. Let's see who they appoint as Head Coach, the support they give to the Head Coach, the players that we sign and, of course, our performances on the pitch this coming season.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Johnny Yen, RCarol, Artybantam and 7 others like this. -
Bradford City just like you and me.broadsword, City loyal, Onside and 7 others like this. -
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I do think the current owners get too much flak now simply because they are not local people. Football is changing, and the current owners are trying to implement a more modern approach, I.e appointing a coach, rather than a traditional manager. I am more than willing to see how this pans out.
The label of being a family and community club stemmed from the aftermath of that awful day in 1985 in my opinion, and I think this has been passed down the generations, and I personally don't think this will be broken, whoever is in charge, or however we are doing on the pitchSilverbantam, Seasideman, Chris Grundy and 6 others like this. -
There are serious issues with the owners. Good people are leaving as they will not listen to advice and their input is not required. Too many stories from those close to the club to deny the issue. This club no longer has a heart & years of progress have been destroyed on & off the pitch. Sponsors, staff, directors & players know. Problem is our DOF, Chairman, Owner, COO is one man, one who will go nowhere until his master plan falls apart and he runs back to Germany & leaves us in the mire he created.
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I can assure you that James going is a far cry from a similar situation as Dave Balwin, he was made an offer from Plymouth I understand but at the moment he is leaving because he does not buy into Edin's way, and unfortunately at the moment that is the only way forward as far as Edin is concerned.
As you say we can only sit back and hope they get it right, because although the likes of the majority of poster on here will still follow the club, 4/5,000 have already shown (for what ever reason) they are not prepared to pay £169 for a season ticket at Valley Parade, get it wrong this coming season and season ticket sales will IMO fall again.
If so will they still persist that they know football and plough on with their vision, and it does not bring success there may be a further drop in season ticket sales, how long as fans do we give them to see an up turn in our very resent fortunes.Tony Wilkinson, Jonny78, Bruce Bannister and 6 others like this. -
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You've been, just about, the fiercist critic of anyone voicing any dissatisfaction of Edin and the club.Utters0, broadsword, Ricc and 6 others like this.
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