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If a British Citizen has a child it automatically gets British citizenship.

 

Just a bit weird how that hadn’t been mentioned in the coverage about her becoming stateless

 

Never thought I'd agree with George Osborne on anything but here we are

Whatever you think of the girl, her newborn baby is completely innocent and punishing it for the crimes its mother committed is just plain evil.

 

Vulnerable to what, a newborn baby? If anything her being properly interrogated would allow the UK to strengthen its security. You're letting your hatred blind you, Tony.

 

I'm sure he does. And if she was exposed to Islamist propaganda in his household for years it may partly explain why she did what she did at only 15 years old.
What I pick up from her interviews is that she doesn't really believe that she was wrong. She appeals for sympathy and understanding then in the next breath says something that suggests she is not actually remorseful. Others in her position found that Isis life was not the paradise they were promised and were horrified by the barbarity once exposed to it close up. But she sounds to me as though (like a criminal who is only remorseful because they've been caught) she only wants to come back because she backed the losing side and is now friendless and destitute.
But (and I can't believe I'm saying this) I agree with George Osborne. She is British. Why should any other country have to take responsibility for her? Sajid Javid may claim she has dual citizenship, but it's now clear that Bangladesh don't accept that and have no intention of letting her into their country. And why should they? She's our problem, not theirs and goodness knows they have enough problems of their own without importing ours.
As ever, the world is more complicated than the simplistic solutions given by right wingers and social conservatives would like us to believe. International law is clear - we cannot make her stateless.
Making an example of her may make us feel good but it's likely to be counterproductive. Those who are at risk of radicalisation aren't very amenable to reason. Being shown that they won't be allowed back in similar circumstances has little effect, because those who go generally have no intention of coming back at the point they are considering leaving. It's much more likely that a refusal to allow her back will make her a martyr and be used by the radicalisers as more evidence of the evil west's prediction of the faithful.
Nobody wants this thoroughly unlikeable person, but it's a question of the lesser of two evils.

 

Pretty fair comments. As seems usual for most things the only winner out of this situation will be the lawyers with their snouts in the trough as one side fights another on behalf of the 'wonderful' British justice system. If you take the Begum situation to its roots its another symptom of wars caused by the worlds richest people for ever more self gain. People like this woman think they are fighting for a just cause when in reality they are pawns in a rich v rich power struggle.

 

Interesting listening to the ex ISIS guy who has rejected them and is now a government adviser on ISIS on Newsnight,
His solution is to bring them all home that are UK citizens but offshore on a UK Territory such as our base in Cyprus where they could be housed, Interrogated and reprogrammed if needed, They could then be prosecuted if crimes could be proved, They would only be allowed access to the UK mainland after deemed as no threat,

 

Sounds a bit like Guantanamo...

 

No Guantanamo was a prison in Cuba and not classed as on US soil,
The Cyprus one ( Or others on crown bases) can be on crown owned land which qualify as part of the UK, They would be in dedicated well built accommodation but free to leave at any time they chose but not to the mainland UK without going through the qualifying process,

 

Should put them on Falklands

 

What have the poor Bennies done to deserve having those people dumped on them?

 

Some cracking Christians on this thread. Jesus would be so proud of you.

 

I didn't quote anybody.

 

Is that you, Jesus?

 

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She actually did that?

 

Very Christian gesture. Jesus might let you in when you die but he probably knows what you're thinking too being God and all that.

Pretty safe to say that Jesus won't be letting anybody who doesn't turn the other cheek in so quite a few will be heading to the other place when they peg it with all the nasties such as Shamima Begum, Jimmy Savile and Kevin Gray.

 

Probably.

 

Thank you.