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Most liked posts in thread: I-Follow & City:The Future or The end of the Away Day?

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  1. Petrov

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    That was already an option prior to Covid.
     
    #33 Petrov, Apr 5, 2021
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    I thought that was only on the longer away trips?
     
    #34 NorthernMonkey, Apr 5, 2021
  3. Petrov

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    Oh right. So it's okay for you to base your opinions on what you did back in the day, but not alright for others to base theirs on what a lot of other people are saying right here right now?
     
    #38 Petrov, Apr 5, 2021
  4. Rogered Tart

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    I know of Leeds fans that did that back in their league1 days where thousands would take over a small town then never get to the game. But that was different as they always filled out their allocations so the away club still made their money.
     
    #39 Rogered Tart, Apr 5, 2021
  5. NorthernMonkey

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    I've offered an opinion based on things that actually happened so in effect, is fact. It's also based on a group of around 10 to 15 supporters who were all ST holders at the time.
    You're pushing your side of the debate based on what people are suggesting they will do in the future, if or when the games are made available. That's the big difference.
     
    #40 NorthernMonkey, Apr 5, 2021
  6. borderlescott

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    Midweek ones were already shown before weren’t they.

    I do think continuing the Ifollow set up will reduce the crowds slightly but there are also a core of fans who go to every away game and they will carry on going in person even if Ifollow stays for aways.

    The success of the team on the pitch ultimately decides how many fans go. That’s the same for any team at any level.

    Lockdown has shown us how numbers ramp up when the side is winning. I’ve watched nearly every away game this season and would have killed to go to some of them in person, if we’d been allowed, as I was craving live action action when everything clicked under T and S.

    For all we’d lose some income from some fans watching in their living room instead of being on the terrace we would likely offset some of that loss by picking up ifollow fans that maybe don’t have the time to spend 10-7 pm ish on a Sat doing away games. They can be on and off in two hours on ifollow and still have their morning doing other stuff. And there’s expats and those who live too far away to attend any games. It’s better for the club to take a cut if their income rather than seeing them buy firesticks and not see a penny of it. Other tinpot clubs might not notice a difference here but we do as we have a wide reach due to our PL past.

    Sparks will know better than us the numbers and those days when we were bad under McCall and they issued the plea for fans to sign up should give him an indicator as to what the Ifollow core was. Knock off some of them next season though as some will reattend in person when allowed won’t they.

    Or does Sparks have faith in our club and expect us to be flying high, with a marketable product, enabling us to hitting the sort of numbers we have during the good run (3k ish for aways). If the side do well then Ifollow is a friend. If we struggle its a cop out for fans and a thorn in our side.

    The other conundrum is working out multiple households. In a City family of four only one adult needs to buy an Ifollow pass and cast to their TV for all four to watch. Could we lose 50 % of the Ifollow support but still see good away crowds because, once bums are back on seats, one ifollow pass unravels into several seats moving back into the crowd in reality?

    I guess we can only do this for away games otherwise it could decimate home support.

    Not an easy one, this, but I hope they give it a go next season and see how it effects numbers.

    Over to you, Ryan......
     
    #43 borderlescott, Apr 6, 2021
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  7. Parader

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    It's no surprise to see City pushing for iFollow to continue.

    With the lease on VP up in the next few years it seems Rupp plans to let it lapse, then have us playing games in front of cameras at our training ground, pocketing the money saved from rent, bills, staffing and running costs to get his investment back.

    It's plain to see what's going on.
     
    #45 Parader, Apr 6, 2021
  8. Bigrod

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    I have ended up going to away grounds and paid to sit in the ‘home end’, technically against the club rules.
    Last season it was Salford (which in the end was a total sell out). In the past Accrington, Macclesfield, York, Oldham, Crewe and a fair few others.
    Surely having an option which complies with the Club rules and allows someone to see the match is important.
    Interesting to see the votes in the Poll above!
     
    #53 Bigrod, Apr 7, 2021
  9. Mike Hunt

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    I don’t buy that, 2,000 fans at £20 a head is £40,000. Welcome but hardly the difference between life and death for a club with a turnover of a few million.
     
    #56 Mike Hunt, Apr 7, 2021
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    All this talk of ifollow continuing for away games won’t give City any income at all.
    After Covid, when fans can attend, there’s no way that home clubs will accept loss of earning from away fans. Currently on ifollow a home club only gets payment for the first 500 sales, then the away club gets the rest.
    This cannot and won’t continue even if ifollow remains an option. The home club should get all of the revenue in the same way they would if away fans attended the game.
     
    #57 Loyalbantam, Apr 7, 2021
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    If someone’s argument is that they’d go to more away games if they could but can’t spare the travel time and need the ifollow option then maybe the answer is to price an ifollow ticket the same as a match ticket.
     
    #59 Loyalbantam, Apr 8, 2021
  12. Petrov

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    Ridiculous idea, all that would do is push more people towards illegal streams.
     
    #60 Petrov, Apr 8, 2021
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    Maybe the away ifollow pass could be made available to purchase once the away allocation of tickets are sold out. That way there's no loss of income to the home side.

    Also, if as some have suggested the away side only, has the option to watch the game on ifollow, what's to stop home fans registering with the away club to get the pass?
     
    #61 Inspector, Apr 8, 2021
  14. Loyalbantam

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    Well ok but in any case the home club should get 100% of the income no matter whether fans attend the game in person or virtually.
    And as far as illegal streams go, the price could be £5 and some cretins would still search for an illegal stream and pay nothing
     
    #62 Loyalbantam, Apr 8, 2021
  15. Bigrod

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    The use of a code. That could be linked to your Season Ticket. So unless Home Fans registered with the Away Club and paid a fee, then it wouldn’t be available.
    The alternative is to provide an Away Priority Pass like City already has, which for a small fee gives added bonuses. I think the cost was in the region of £25, add that to a £10 i-follow match cost and it would deter most home fans.
    If they were that keen, they would probably use illegal methods, far less hassle,
     
    #63 Bigrod, Apr 8, 2021
  16. Bigrod

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    In every other season, i-follow is at matches. My daughter in San Francisco watches all home and away games live, having bought an i-Follow package through the Club. So the ‘cost’ of the service was met by City, prior to the current situation.
     
    #65 Bigrod, Apr 8, 2021
  17. Bigrod

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    That could see the end of ‘pay on the day’ at the gate. A ‘Home club’ could only decide it was ‘sold out’ to ‘Away supporters’ several days prior to the match. That would probably mean they would have to stop selling tickets beforehand, so that i-Follow passes could be sold.
     
    #66 Bigrod, Apr 8, 2021
  18. Loyalbantam

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    But the considerable income won’t be ours!!
     
    #71 Loyalbantam, Apr 8, 2021
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    Sorry but you are being naive if you think the majority of EFL clubs will accept the same deal when away fans are allowed to travel.
    They’ll want 100% of the ifollow sales and rightly so
     
    #73 Loyalbantam, Apr 8, 2021
  20. Bigrod

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    I am sure there could be some compromise. I assume that in the past, City made some money when it has sold tickets for away matches? It would very altruistic if they did all the work and the away team took all the profit.
     
    #74 Bigrod, Apr 8, 2021
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