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Without those wins we'd already be down.

Hindsight as you say is wonderful - but the bigger mistake was keeping Payne. I said at the time that him staying was a boost - but only of it didn't impede our other business, which it clearly did. The 10-12 grand we're paying him would've been far better off spent on 3-4 players to strengthen the team. A proper CB, left back, left winger and striker. Our position in January was salvageable but we completely ballsed that window up.

 

Yep have to agree with this, if indeed that money being spent on Payne could have been invested elsewhere. I think the key piece to this would have been actually getting those 3-4 players in, and they being successful. There would have been uproar from us all had Payne left and we didn’t bring in new faces. Bowyers early team selections highlight just how inbalanced and lacking in pace we are. How different could this have been, we’ll never know.

However agree with @simons (woking bantam) to the extent that Decembers run of form meant many of us got way too carried away, and I wonder if some of the players and management did? But @Faithful Bantam is also right, without those points we would be down already.

One thing is sure, where we finish this season won’t be defined on the above. It’s been on a number of failures and poornclub leadership from the beginning.

 

Hindsights wonderful but the failure of this season came before pre season started. Buying players without a manager and then appointing a trio of woeful managers (maybe decent coaches but not managers) under a deluded chairmen set the standard.
HopkinS failure came in around Oct/Nov when he said we'd have players in for the NYD game. He put a nail in his coffin at that point and then we waited for all of Jan to scramble for players right at the death. His Jan signings, so far, have been very poor with only Butterfield looking good in a handful of games. He was out of his depth and did the right thing and walked.

The season was a mess before it had started.

 

Payne is a gifted footballer but Carbone was different class,a little genius
and the most technical player BCFC have ever had.

 

To me, whichever division we are in, Billy Clarke is still not a striker

 

We did not need hindsight to know what was needed in the January window, Most fans were desperate for the window to open and most knew we needed at least an experienced centre back ( or 2 ), A centre forward and a winger, This was the minimum we needed to compete and try and escape relegation, What we got was entirely different because a poor manager ignored what we needed and brought in 3 midfielders to add to the many we already had, That is not hindsight it is pure stupidity

 

Not just basing my thoughts on the 1 win.

I like his style of football, he did a very good job at Blackpool, getting them promoted out of the 4th tier at the first attempt. I believe he did a decent job at Blackburn too.

Dont want to start looking for a new manager again in the summer either. I wish he had been given a longer contract, and I still dont understand why he wasnt

 

Jack Payne has 9 goals and 5 assits this season. He has contributed to a third of all our league goals. He should be playing.

 

Only 9 games left now Bronco. We need to win the next 2 games to give us a chance.
Whatever happens, would like to see Bowyer here next season

 

If Bowyer doesnt keep us up, are you saying we should be looking for yet a another new manager in May?. If so, when we appoint one, by your reckoning we give him a 2 month contract to see how he gets on?

 

Then having found a winning formula he completely changed it for the Barnsley game and everything fell apart from that point on. When you look at Hopkin's actions, both on and off the pitch, in his last two months it becomes more and more bizarre.

 

Agree it's hardly rocket science, Anderson IMO offered little against Luton, I'd have gladly subbed him at half time.

 

The funds were there to pay a massive wage to secure Payne for another few months, and Butterfield cannot be cheap either.

I think every fan was delighted to secure Payne, however, I'm sure most wouldnt have wanted that to the detriment of bringing much needed other players in key positions where everyone knows where we are very weak.

It was a very poor January window, despite noises from Hopkin that we were ready to bring in much needed better players.

 

If he keeps us up, surely he 100% gets the job, and the freedom of the City

 

Apparently high standards means tearing everything up and starting again after every few weeks. Pragmatism and promoting continuity and stability are low standards.

 

Ah....not sure where to start;
Firstly agree with Fordy, not keeping J’O’B was a massive mistake, would now rather have him than Payne. However I along with most fans agreed at the time that keeping Payne was essential in our rise up the table. Oh how wrong we all were!!
For reasons we will never know Hopkin appeared to be obsessed with players who fit the number ten mold. We have no backbone no desire, no will to win, December masked the fact that we have a team of talented “snowflakes”
Ps......comparisons of Beni & Payne Carbone = The best technical player ever to pull on a city shirt, and for those who think he was a luxury player, he ran himself into the ground, threw himself into tackles, see if you can find the footage of him nose to nose with Stuart Pearce!! The little Italian was different class