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For some to wake up. Unfortunately it might be.

 

I would hope not but anything can happen between now and the end of 2020/21 season, when ever that finishes.

 

Because right now I wouldnt back our players individually or collectively against their Harrogate counterparts ?

 

Underdogs perhaps... they'll have a momentum we don't have, perhaps?
Why wouldn't we be underdogs? They're on the up and we've got some work to do to gain some sort of positivity reading these threads

 

You are joking right?

 

I agree. You should mod more often mate.

 

100% mate.

 

Yeah, MK Dons is a good example of team with fewer obvious significant limiting factors than so many other clubs.

There are a lot of teams who gone from non league to League One without too much trouble, but very few have actually gone further. Burton did, MK Dons did for a while, but not many.

 

Some change.

 

We're not a big club in any way shape or form, the big crowds on give away tickets mask over what is a predominant history in the lower leagues. Of the seven teams mentioned in the first sentence, five of them are above us in the league, we might feel because of this we are underachieving but in reality we are lower league yo yo club bar one or two spells of success.

 

And yet if we made it to the Championship we have the stadium, we have the fan base, we have the city (ie, Bradford is way bigger than Burton or Rochdale), we have the catchment area to compete easily.

Tailor made.

 

Big if. All boils down to having a plan and an owner willing to back it with financially. Big crowds mean little if its not bringing in the capital.

 

looks similar to Bradford End of same era

 

Was it. Only 6 and I was into the other team in West Yorkshire (blame my parents)...

 

City’s level is probably top half of league one anything above that is overachieving and below underachieving. Yes we have crowds that would match a few in the championship but that is because we have affordable ticket prices. What is not always taking into consideration is our fixed costs we have an expensive rent to pay on the stadium and expensive running fixed costs which many in this league don’t and much of the money other teams make goes directly into the team.
Possibly if we did make the championship at any time extra crowds willing to pay a bit more would make us a bit more viable.

 

The big crowds bring in a competitive amount of capital in League One and Two.

Backed by Rupp, the low ticket prices simply aren't an excuse for not being able to compete at the top end of League One - which, in fact, we were doing before we got Rahic'd.

 

Any club who is at the top end of League One can survive in the Championship, HOWEVER, it won't redress the balance of a financially ludicrous division.

We're never going to compete with teams losing £35 million + a year unless we're also losing £35 million + a year.

I don't think there's a rich enough sucker on this Earth to bother investing that. Clubs are only able to do it thanks for the ridiculous legacy of parachute payments.

 

Bradford End wasn’t that bad but the change between the past 40 years is probably similar.

most stadium have changed massively in that time

 

You can't compete with teams willing to lose huge sums of money and the EFL happy to allow them to do so. The most important thing when going up is to stick to your game plan, Richmond went full retard and it cost him dearly. When your only income is from TV rights, sponsorship and fans coming through the gate youneed to rinse the latter two for every penny you can get. Manchester United and Liverpool are two examples, albeit successful, of where the affordable prices used to be have pretty much gone. A ticket to both these clubs used to reasonable even during successful periods but not any more. Easy when you have demand outstripping supply though, we will never have that luxury.
So for the foreseeable future the £149 tickets will be a staple diet at Valley Parade.