Harrogate Town

You are joking right?

 

Still on form...You been drinking Red Bull all day.

That was a good one ha

 

No he'd have had a plan.

 

I agree. You should mod more often mate.

 

100% mate.

 

Ten a penny are small clubs with big ambitions.

Crawley, Fleetwood, Forest Green, Burton Albion, Accrington Stanley, AFC Wimbledon, you could maybe throw Lincoln City in to the mix. They go up a bit, then come back down. That's why they lack potential.

Salford City are yet another, but an apparent exception in that SO FAR it's not clear where their ceiling is. It could be League One football, could be higher, I guess it depends how much money they're prepared to waste.

I think what some fans, not you or anything Dave, don't get is you can't both argue that Bradford City are a) 'not a big club', and simultaneously state that we're underachieving.

It's actually one or the other, and some fans need to decide which they think we are - rightfully placed, and therefore nothing to moan about, or horribly underachieving because we do in fact have reams of potential and should be AT LEAST a Championship club.

One or the other.

 

Yeah, MK Dons is a good example of team with fewer obvious significant limiting factors than so many other clubs.

There are a lot of teams who gone from non league to League One without too much trouble, but very few have actually gone further. Burton did, MK Dons did for a while, but not many.

 

I'm sure I posted a reply to @Bigrod (#129) , simply said Rushden and Diamonds.

 

Some change.

 

We're not a big club in any way shape or form, the big crowds on give away tickets mask over what is a predominant history in the lower leagues. Of the seven teams mentioned in the first sentence, five of them are above us in the league, we might feel because of this we are underachieving but in reality we are lower league yo yo club bar one or two spells of success.

 

And yet if we made it to the Championship we have the stadium, we have the fan base, we have the city (ie, Bradford is way bigger than Burton or Rochdale), we have the catchment area to compete easily.

Tailor made.

 

Big if. All boils down to having a plan and an owner willing to back it with financially. Big crowds mean little if its not bringing in the capital.

 

looks similar to Bradford End of same era

 

Was it. Only 6 and I was into the other team in West Yorkshire (blame my parents)...

 

City’s level is probably top half of league one anything above that is overachieving and below underachieving. Yes we have crowds that would match a few in the championship but that is because we have affordable ticket prices. What is not always taking into consideration is our fixed costs we have an expensive rent to pay on the stadium and expensive running fixed costs which many in this league don’t and much of the money other teams make goes directly into the team.
Possibly if we did make the championship at any time extra crowds willing to pay a bit more would make us a bit more viable.

 

The big crowds bring in a competitive amount of capital in League One and Two.

Backed by Rupp, the low ticket prices simply aren't an excuse for not being able to compete at the top end of League One - which, in fact, we were doing before we got Rahic'd.

 

Any club who is at the top end of League One can survive in the Championship, HOWEVER, it won't redress the balance of a financially ludicrous division.

We're never going to compete with teams losing £35 million + a year unless we're also losing £35 million + a year.

I don't think there's a rich enough sucker on this Earth to bother investing that. Clubs are only able to do it thanks for the ridiculous legacy of parachute payments.