Quantcast
  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice

Most liked posts in thread: Grayson' s Stats

  1. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    Stuart gained 5 wins in his last 14 league games FACT , Grayson 3 wins in 14

    Stuart 15 points, Simons 14 points

    Stuart was sacked. And Took the blame from the likes of Park.

    Simon gets a free ride as its the players fault.

    Charlton and Scunthorpe get a managers bounce. We get a manager dead rubber.
     
  2. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    Not when 1 manager gets sacked and the other praised.

    The facts is and you can twist this all you want.

    Grayson had 42 points to play for. He won 14 points. Gets Praised for not having a January window. Yet had 3 months of the transfers that did come in compared to McCalls 1 week.

    McCalls last 42 points he played for. He won 18 points. Gets sacked.

    Thats fine! He deserved the sack but the hypocrisy stinks.

    Also how many points did McCall get in the business end of last season. His last 14 games? Im not saying he would have repeated it but IMO could hardly do worse.
     
  3. BoingBoing

    BoingBoing Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    4,120
    Likes Received:
    4,503
    But the facts remain the same. McCall got more points than Grayson in their last 14 games.

    McCall had a depleted squad for most of January, especially in defence. We had to play a dev squad player (Hanson) and then a central midfielder (Guy) there for most of the month and a winger (Robinson) at left back. We also missed our regular CB partnership at this point. And I don’t think people realise just how much we missed Doyle through this period.

    We eventually got the replacements in that McCall was desperate for (but not the striker he yearned) but was then given just 1 more week to turn things around.

    Parkinson had an awful run in his tenure too, but he was given time and resources to turn things around. Nobody will know if McCall, having worked with his new players, would have been able to improve us. But it won’t have been any worse than what Grayson managed.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #38 BoingBoing, May 6, 2018
    Last edited: May 6, 2018
  4. Tillo

    Tillo Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    352
    McCall would probably have achieved the same points tally had he been left to get on with it
     
  5. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    I honestly believe if he had got the Full backs he was crying out for at the time we were 1 point behind Blackburn in January he would have easily got the 23 points from the 20 games left. That would have seen him stay in the top six today.

    Even after his terrible run. I believe we could have got the 23 points from the remaining 15 games.

    I honestly dont think we would have fell 5 league positions after he was sacked with him here.

    We move on.
     
  6. Aaron Baker

    Aaron Baker Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2018
    Messages:
    3,829
    Likes Received:
    3,985
    I think you're getting muddled. I haven't actually seen much praise.

    At best it's just hope that he can replicate his previous successes.
     
  7. abbomf

    abbomf Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    1,225
    Likes Received:
    1,623
    Results have been garbage and the performances have been below garbage. It's easy to "keep it tight", we don't need to pay Grayson to do that, Abbot could have done that, even Edin could have done that. But SG and his expertise were brought in to ensure we didn't slip down the table and remained in the top 6, that's what Rupp said on his appointment. Garbage.
     
  8. Ulysses S Grant

    Ulysses S Grant Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    11,440
    Likes Received:
    14,876
    By comparison Stuart’s last 11 were won 2 lost 9. Grayson stopped the rot. Ok it took time but his last 10 are won 3 drawn 4 lost 3. A vast improvement
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. Nick_W_

    Nick_W_ Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    2,012
    Likes Received:
    2,546
    Let it go, move on. How about a Daz doorstep challenge?
    Capture.PNG
     
  10. HUDDERSSBANTAM

    HUDDERSSBANTAM Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    3,193
    Likes Received:
    4,625
    You forget how badly we were playing. Wimbledon & Northampton were horrific performances.
     
  11. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    Heres my opinion

    - We had a decent first 11 that punched above their weight
    - Injurys took its toll and squad depth was lacking
    - Luckily we get into the transfer window well inside the top six and near autos
    - Edin plays his game of poker aka T&A article
    - Round pegs in square holes takes its toll and loosing run starts.
    - After fan chants amazingly we land a group of players at 1 time
    - A week later, Edin gets his wish and McCall is sacked
    - Edin thought fortunes would turn around as it was McCalls failings
    - Grayson is appointed to appease the mass as he is not a coach Edin can manipulate
    - Results dont improve and we drop 5 places in the league table
    - All of a sudden to keep the theme its McCalls fault the players now take the blunt
    - Simon gets a free pass, and rightly so but so too should have mccall
    - Hyprocrites fail to see the bigger picture is not the manager(s), players fault but the depth of the squad.


    i want Grayson to be our new manager full stop. Not because oh his stats (4 points less than the sacked mccall over same period) but becuase he is a manager that Edin cant manipulate.

    Can you imagine him being told to play Jacob Hanson in January when we were just outside the autos? NO CHANCE

    Grayson would walk, and why not!
     
    #28 Urban Soldier, May 5, 2018
    Last edited: May 5, 2018
  12. Aaron Baker

    Aaron Baker Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2018
    Messages:
    3,829
    Likes Received:
    3,985
    Very poor stats.

    If he stays it will be based on his well earned reputation and successful philosophy rather than his results here.
     
    Bronco and Nick_W_ like this.
  13. Rogered Tart

    Rogered Tart Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    17,219
    Likes Received:
    40,910
    This'll have Tony McMahon's smalls whiter than white in no time.
     
    WilsdenBantam and Nick_W_ like this.
  14. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    sorry Just rechecked he had 6 wins in his last 14 league games did McCall to Simons 3

    LOL

    SO McCall gained 4 more points compared to Simons tenure and was sacked

    ha ha
     
    rmbenson007 likes this.
  15. Ulysses S Grant

    Ulysses S Grant Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    11,440
    Likes Received:
    14,876
    Can’t you see we had issues that way way beyond a run of poor results? Btw charlton didn’t sack Robinson and Scunthorpe only took action because Alexander had done exactly the same the season before

    Charlton didn’t need a bounce did they ?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Tillo likes this.
  16. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    The old git is twisted
     
    Tillo likes this.
  17. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    100% so was Blackpool

    It did not get the managers bounce. Like Scunny did or Charlton did. There is a reason for that. We were over performing under McCall and the wheels finally came of.

    Everyone could see it.

    We done a great job staying in the top six all season and in January 2018 when Edin was spouting about being an automatic contender. We played a game of poker and lost.
     
    Bronco likes this.
  18. Yorkieman

    Yorkieman Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    783
    If we are doing stats why not throw Grayson's Sunderland period into the mix as well.

    It has definitely been a season that Simon will want to forget.

    Onwards and upwards.
     
    Urban Soldier likes this.
  19. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320
    ok praise is wrong, but getting a free pass as the players are now being quoted as terrible under Grayson.

    Same players were 1 point behind blackburn in January before mccalls 5 league game loss got him the sack and it was McCalls fault regarding formation and tactics when we had no full backs and a fragile squad.

    So some need to make up their minds.

    hypocrite comes to mind.
     
    BoingBoing likes this.
  20. Urban Soldier

    Urban Soldier Breakthrough Prospect

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    320

    but it was his team, just like this is mccalls team (lol)
     
    Yorkieman likes this.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice