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FIFA 22

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Bantam Begins, Oct 2, 2021.

  1. Bantam Begins

    Bantam Begins Squad Player

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    For you gamers or younger guys out there who have got the game what do we all think?

    Personally think they’ve gone all woke as you can’t do a dirty slide tackle and injure someone anymore and those mid match Alex Scott announcements are just annoying and excruciating.

    Bradford are pretty competitive on it but by no means given the largest budget, Alex gillead keeps scoring so not the most realistic.
     
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  2. SimonW

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    Doesn't that sum up Alex Scott in general? I get that the climate is such that they have to include women in football media but seriously can they not find anyone with a bit more charisma to try and make a thing? I can understand maybe giving her a little time to find her feet but at this point, if she isn't really improving it's unlikely she ever will yet they are giving her more and more things to do. And worst of all its often general presentation jobs, at least as a pundit she is prepared but as a general host you need charisma

    Mind you it could be worse, the one CBS in the US often use for the Europa League and Europa Conference while having a little more charisma, regularly in the match build-ups when asked about players says she will have to defer her opinion to the rest of the panel as she hasn't seen them play. That's your job FFS

    It's a shame Emma Hayes day job prevents her from doing more punditry. While I wasn't the biggest fan of her as a co-commentator (I think she was often being too in-depth and technical for that role but she seems ideal if a woman is needed to be on the punditry team as she has charisma and is knowledgable
     
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  3. Bantam Begins

    Bantam Begins Squad Player

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    Yes I agree with all that you have said but all I will add is that the women’s football today had no male commentators or pundits…..
     
  4. WilsdenBantam

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    I only play online so haven’t heard Alex Scott, not a big fan of career mode anymore. That said online the servers are terrible I run at between 16-30 ms but it still feels awful. I’ve heard people in Italy and Germany run at around 4-6 ms if there are any tech guys or gals on here who know how to even up the playing field it’d be greatly appreciated. I get over 200 mg on Virgin Media and have never had issues really on other games like Call of Duty, just FIFA every year that said I’m the mug who keeps buying it…
     
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  5. SimonW

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    As someone who used to work in Game Development and worked on a few big online games (and still do some consulting in the field) I can give you some background into this.

    Ping is the time it takes a data packet to be sent from one machine, to another an back again and the biggest impact on ping is distance from the server. So 16ms ping means it’s taking 16m/s to do the round trip. Now there are a number of factors that dictate ping but the biggest is distance, if you are 300miles from the sever and someone else is 3 miles they will almost always have a lower ping.

    Now to balance that out games use two matchmaking techniques, either it splits people into regions and then splits those regions into subregions and the server you are on depends which region and sub region you are in. So you would be in Europe and the London SubRegion and you would basically just play other Brits. The other is it finds the sever that’s as in the middle of the two people as it can. Sometimes they will use a combination so when player numbers are high enough it uses the subregions but when player numbers are below a certain amount it starts combining sub regions and finding the server most in the middle. Anything that uses a server in the middle will general benefit mainland Europeans as the UK's location make it difficult. (Not to mention one of the other aspects that impact lag is the cable itself. The undersea cables are often slower than many of the onland ones and are more prone to breaking and data issues, just as the Aussies about their internet because they are reliant to long undersea cables with atleast one being down almost every day. We have a problem in the U.K. with sharks nibbling and damaging the cables connecting us to Europe and America)

    TBH though in something like FIFA 16/30ms shouldn’t be a problem, even for a FPS which are more ping impacted that’s low enough where the games ping compensation doesn’t have a problem, it’s as you get into triple figures that it really starts to become noticeable.

    Mind you I imagine you are most likely using WiFi right? If so run an Ethernet cable to your router and connect via that. That can cause what can seem like lag bit which isn’t and a Ethernet cable will remove that as it’s a more stable connection that has less issues with interference
     
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  6. WilsdenBantam

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    It’s not WiFi but one of those WiFi booster machines which I connect an Ethernet to the Deco which I bought, due to room location I can’t put it directly into the router. That gives me some double nat detect. I think the EA servers for FIFA in general aren’t great though tbh sometimes I can run at the same MS one game feels perfect another terrible can depend on the time of day as well. When I do a speed test on the console I get a latency of 165 ms is that good or bad?
     
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  7. xiaoma666888

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    Any experiences getting FIFA coins from mmoball.com?

    Pretty done with buying FIFA points/Coins. mmoball.com seems to be the cheapest I can find. Anyone have experience with them or know other cheaper and reliable places to buy?
     
  8. Storck

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    Do you think them dropping the branding FIFA will effect the sales?
     
  9. Edin Nowhere

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    The licencing of the leagues and the players is the biggest pull of the game. If they lose that then they lose Ultimate Team which is the biggest cash cow in the game.

    They could call it whatever they want along as they run Ultimate team it will be fine.

    To be honest they would be better moving away from the Corrupt Fifa name anyhow.
     
  10. Storck

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    Not sure if the name rights of clubs and leagues all come with the FIFA brand. I presume it does otherwise what else are you paying for?
     
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    I'm not sure Fifa holds all the branding rights, there are various teams under different names in the game, Juventus for one.

    It was started as Fifa back in 1994 but there were no licencing at all on that and I think it has just stuck. Just like Madden has stuck for them when realistically it could be called NFL.

    The idea of Ultimate team was first brought about outside the Fifa game in Uefa Champions League for the Xbox 360. That was the first game that brought in the idea to buy packs to gain players and build a team. That was back in 2007 and was developed by EA Canada. I think Ultimate team was then introduced as it's own concept within Fifa in Fifa 09.

    Do Fifa actually have overall control of football in order to sell image rights? There are many different rights being used, Fifa, Uefa, Individual Leagues, Individual Players who will all have their own rights. Do Fifa give anything to Bradford City for example to give EA the rights to use their badge on the game? I think someone at Fifa has been getting very rich on the back of this and as some are missing out they are starting to call it out. Zaltan who clearly owns his own image rights has asked who gave EA permission to use him in their game.

    It was simpler back in the old days of sensible soccer with Alan Sherear
     
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    you are probably right about the image rights and naming etc. so if they keep all those then I don’t think losing the FIFA brand would matter especially as they want £250m a year up for £150m
     
  13. SimonW

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    Licences are complex. Players own their own their master rights and could sell them to the likes of EA individually if they wanted. Their contract with the clubs though grants the club the right to also use and sell their rights (but doesn't remove the players right to also use and sell them). Leagues and competitions then also require clubs to hand over the rights to use and sell not just the clubs own IP but also the players ones that they hold

    Players also get paid for playing for the national team and these contracts also grant the nation the rights to use and sell the players rights and to enter competitions the governing bodies also require nations to give them access to the rights.

    So what the FIFA licence gives EA its access to the world cup branding, the national team IP's for those taking part and the players in the national teams pool's likeness. It will also give them access to the FIFA World Club Cup and the teams and players involved in that.

    However, seeing as most of the IP is covered by another license all they really lose is being able to use the World Cup and Club World cup branding and maybe some international teams so its not a big loss, especially for the price that they pay. Really the only benefit is locking the likes of Konami with PES out of the rights as the way the right are locked up by EA PES has to go club to club to get the rights which are more complicated to do and more expensive, they apparently pay nearly the same as EA pay for the FIFA licence just for Man Utd and Juve licences so it certainly makes it easier for PES to be able to afford more IP
     
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  14. Storck

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    EA are having to remove Maradona from it after losing a court case in Argentina. They bought the rights off someone that didn't have the power to sell them
     

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