FA Cup 2nd round draw

Uninspiring draw it may be, but we have a winnable passage to the 3rd round IMO. Roll on next Tuesday night and lets get the job done.

 

Salford away would have been worse than the draw we got IMO.

 

We don’t now though.

Your brain not understanding that we are shite!

 

We're not shite but neither are we good. Our league record of W5 D6 L4 and one replay from being in or out of the FA Cup and a goal average of +3 shows we are currently the epitome of average. Bang average to be precise. Nothing is won at this time of the season but the season report mark so far is a C.

 

I wouldn't count your chickens. 2 wins out of the last 14 indicates that games that are "winnable" on paper, aren't in practice!

 

But we anhilated all 14 teams and created lots of chances
Surely thats better than winning 2 out of last 14

 

Agree. Either something's not working or something needs to be worked on.Time is always the enemy when you're chasing results.

 

1872: Whodunnit?

A potted history of the FA Cup Trophy !!
The very first trophy was made for £20 and went by the nickname of the ‘little tin idol’. A coveted prize, it passed between the victorious clubs for more than 20 years, until Aston Villa won the Cup in 1895. Later that year, it was stolen from the window of a Birmingham shop - where the club had agreed to display it so their fans could see it up close - and was never seen again.

Villa, as reigning champions, were even fined £25 by the FA to pay for a replacement trophy, as the cup was their responsibility at the time of the theft. In the 1950s, a career criminal confessed to a journalist that he had been part of a gang which took the tin idol and melted it down to make fake half-crown coins, although his claims could never be proved. Whatever happened, a new trophy had to be made in time for the end of the 1895/96 season, or the winners would have no wares to show for their hard work.

1895: Another little idol
The stolen Cup was replaced with a replica, which managed not to go missing during the 15 years it was in use. When Manchester United won the tournament in 1909, the club made its own replica in celebration - when it dawned on the FA that they did not own the design copyright. The decision was made to change the look of the trophy. This led to the cup design we’re most familiar with today and, as the second trophy was taken out of circulation in 1910, it was presented to FA President Lord Kinnaird. Auctioned in 2005, it sold for £420,000.


1911: Looks familiar
The chunkier, more substantial-looking trophy - the design still used today - was made by Bradford jeweller Fattorini in time for the 1911 Cup final. Sixty-one-and-a-half centimetres in height, it is by far the longest-serving of the five trophies, staying in the chair for 81 seasons before it was retired in 1992.

This particular trophy was valued at £1m when it appeared on the Antiques Roadshow in 2016. Intriguingly, the grapes that form part of the trophy design had expert Alastair Dickenson suggest that Fattorini may not have designed the trophy from scratch. According to him, the most recognisable British sporting trophy may been designed originally as an elaborate champagne cooler. Either way, it was a neat twist that saw a trophy with Bradford origins handed over to Bradford City in its very first year of use.


The FA Cup design we recognise today, ahead of its first presentation at the 1911 final.
1992: The next generation
With so much history in its handles, the FA decided it was important to preserve the 1911 trophy, and an exact replica was made in 1992 to ensure the former enjoyed a future free from risk of damage. Ironically, as this trophy began a life where it was more accessible to fans than it had been previously, it had a far shorter life-span than its predecessor. Just 22 years after it was first awarded, it had been bumped and knocked about enough to warrant a replacement - even though a copy had been made alongside it in case anything unfortunate happened to the official trophy.


2014: A lot more cup for your buck
The FA Cup doesn’t spend as much time in the trophy cabinet these days. The trophy regularly tours schools and shopping centres with the public encouraged to get closer to it. That means more wear and tear. So when the fifth incarnation of the trophy was designed five years ago, measures were put in place to ensure a sturdier future.

It stands at the same height as the 1911 and 1992 versions but, at 6.3kg, it’s a lot heavier and able to take a few more knocks if it has to. The trophies may change, but the rules don’t. Even though Arsenal have solidified their record on FA Cup wins, the club cannot say they own the Cup in their cabinet. It is only ever on loan from the FA to the winning club. It has to be returned to them by March 1 the following year - and, if they want to, the FA can recall it whenever they want, provided they give a week’s notice. So if you ever win it - don’t let it out of your sight.

 

Not sure winning at Sunderland in the "Jackmeoffcup" will have any bearing on that particular issue

 

I was hoping for Halifax away

 

With all that negativity, I honestly don't know why you bother supporting Bradford City.

 

We could still get them in the 3rd round!

 

For me we are shite.

You have to look at the expectations and fan base(attendance)

To even be 12th is embarrassing but we can only hope we get our act together on the pitch

 

To be honest Uyllses it's to be hoped we never achieve any level of success in Fordy's lifetime, he would be suicidal with nothing negative to say. Having said that he would probably find something to moan about.
In reality we are mid table mediocre, hopefully heading (slowly) in the right direction but NOT shite.

 

We are shite!

We own nothing and now feeling expectations on the pitch.

Shite owner! Shite CEO.

The club is lucky the fans are passive.

 

We’d be even luckier if you stayed on the Liverpool forum

 

To be 12th on 9th November means absolutely nothing. Look where Bolton were on 9th November 2020 and then save your judgement for 9th May. If we are still 12th (or lower) then you are right, but until then it's just a knee jerk reaction based on a meaningless league position.

 

Has become