Elliot Watt

And to be 40 minutes closer to home and his young family.

 

Tell it to Simon Parker also. Seriously recently you are looking like you don't understand the game and how football works.

Do you think Mane didn't leave Liverpool for money also? damn get with the programme will you.

 

It's not.

If we'd have offered him more than Salford he'd still be here.

 

Skillset different but squad stature they are the same. Best for best.

Im not sure where the obsession with Watts style has come from. We have a hoard of CMs and only East sounds similar.

Some folk will be having kittens if Gilli or Sutton partners Smallwood...

PS you are wrong on Smallwood. He is far more than simply breaking up play. Hes actually very comfortable on the ball and his passing is fine too. Struggled a bit last year in the CH but he eas often complimented for the very same in L1 when he captained them to promotion.

 

Happy to be proved wrong but haven’t we signed mostly promising rookies. We should be one of the better teams and hopefully have signed players who could end up developing and being worth money, but not sure we are worthy of being bookies second favourites.

we’ve got ‘potential’

 

I've not said it's not for finacial reasons, what I'm disagreeing with fordy is his comment he's had a vast wage increase, you'd expect a move to Salford would improve on Citys offer but to claim its a vast increase is as I've posted guess work.
I'll await fordy using Simon Parkers article accurate .

 

Whether he has or has not moved for the extra money is speculative. Look at the evidence. MH has had a good look at him and offered him a contract. He has turned it down thinking he can not only increase his wages but also play at a higher level. That proved to be non starter. Salford came in and offered more. The club had offered a contract with a sell by date on. It had passed, so he took what they offered him as he was out of contract this week. He is grumpy with MH because he didn’t offer him what he felt he was worth, hence the nasty quip I am going to where I will receive better coaching.

 

Where have I said differently, I'm saying fordy does not know its a vast wage increase, must try harder.

 

Mane was been paid very well by Liverpool. He probably wanted a new challenge given he is 30 and was at Pool 5 years.

Again comparing L2 to PL is absurd.

 

Totally agree with you, the General and many others. I speak in a purely PERSONAL capacity and FAN as I have no idea what has gone on but several things stand out to me.
1. EW always had a high opinion of himself that he generally failed to live up to on the pitch.
2. His form last season regressed quite significantly in my view. He went from a quite skilled dead ball man around the penalty area and an accurate corner taker to not being able to hit a barn door or clear the first defender. Often caught in possession when show boating resulting in a desperate foul and sometimes a yellow. Trying and often failing with the glamour pass, leading to trouble.
3. I think I watched all bar 10 of his games home and away in his time and last season I can honestly say his loss of possession or mis placed passes directly lead to goals which cost us between 8 and 10 points. That would of itself not made us a promotion candidate but the knock on effect to confidence of the points losses, if reversed may have lead to better results in other games and a different end of season but that's all gone now.
4. In my view he has gone at this late stage as he hung around to see our incomers and has realised he may not feature and his parting salvo about coaching sums him up for me. Joining a Club with a record of higher and fire is a huge gamble and as Fordy and many others have said it must be money.
Equally where has the other alleged interest gone?, or was it there in the first place. Finally agree with the proposition he has been outsmarted by MH although like Crankshaw and Canavan his travel costs will be less.

 

Now your using Simon Parker as the font of knowledge the very same Simon Parker you accuse of being sh1te and a lazy journalist as I posted you move the goal posts to suite your arguement, what has Mane got to do with the situation.

 

Aftet years of slating Paudie as crap he is now lamenting us losing one of our best players.

 

I think that he's hoping Gillead can grow into that role. He's decent in possession, had a great engine and has an eye for a pass so playing deeper there may be less pressure on him and if he can get a bit of confidence he may do pretty well there.

I'm far from convinced but after seeing the last few games that's my thoughts on what MH may be thinking.

 

Not really. He was already at one anyway.

 

100% Roger!

 

I'm not getting the Watt love in. He was part of a failing team and has gone, where and why are irrelevant. We offered him a deal, nobody knows if that was £500 pw more or £50 per week more.

Was he any better than Callum Cooke who we released ? I don't think he was.

During the covid season, when we could see more of his play through replays etc, he gave away silly free kicks two/ three times a match, almost always in the same position and on a few occassions we conceded from those.

He's a decent player, but back in that covid season I would have been benching him, and the only real progress he has made is since deluded Derek left under Hughes. He's a loss, as is Cooke, but I honestly believe Mark Hughes will not be waking up in the night in a cold sweat over him leaving.

Gilliead and Smallwood in CM are a better combination.

 

Watt was decent but vastly over rated. More times he was bang average than fantastic. Smallwood has far more to his game and i am absolutely positive he can pass 10 yards either side or forward.

Top end L1 MFs are usually 'ok in possession' too.

 

Fordy doesn't actually know his arse from his elbow tbh!

 

Only one of those talks