Einsteins Margin For Error Theory ! ?

Interesting idea and probably has some merit.

I think we should invoke the Duckworth-Lewis method. Ideally, this will leave Leeds needing 22 points from the last game of the season.

 

It seems this has got some clubs giving it thought, enough for EFL to delay Monday's meeting BUT clever as it appears this is a plan with one aim only - Tranmere avoid relegation.
The plan takes no account of cost, further delay for testing additional clubs involved, the expiry of contracts and so on. The biggest is cost and I hear Exeter and Cheltenham have already made noises to the extent the question arises, are they going to take part in the play offs?, who knows. Then you have Plymouth owner saying he is no longer going to prop the club up. What does their future hold.
Additionally how do clubs afford bonuses for a play off place they were not expecting to get?
The whole thing is a non runner promoted by nothing other than self interest and greed and a failure to recognise the damage it may do. Typical of the "I'm alright Jack" approach which this crisis should have eliminated, clearly not, at least Tranmere way and although FGR are not my favourite club the attack on this proposal by their Owner yesterday is sound and needs carrying through next Tuesday.

 

Good idea.
Even without the historical data to back up the proposal, a sensible view of the table would suggest that probably only the Top 10 in each would realistically have a chance of the playoffs.

Also, L1 relegation - even after applying MFE, Southend and Bolton would still go down, and deservedly so. L1 would only be 1 team ahead with normal promotion from L2.

L2 promotion and relegation as planned. 4 up, 1 down. NL 2 up.
Following season, relegate 5 from L1, ad then everything balances out.
Simples.

 

Not for me unless it's 3 still go down from div 1.

Also in terms of us and Port Vale we said no to the play offs and act like a charity. We don't deserve it now.

 

I’ve always agreed that we should have been more stubborn rather than just accepting finishing in 9th.
This proposal also offers those that might qualify the chance to decline the opportunity.
Unless the season is played out (which we know won’t happen), a compromise is needed somewhere. This is the most sensible proposal I’ve seen so far.

 

No compromise is needed mate. What is needed is leadership.

In France and Belgium it was PPG and that's that. In Spain and Germany all clubs told to come back and those that don't will be losing points.

Tranmere are thinking of themselves. Who we going to play if it gets accepted? You got your boots ready? Who is paying for testing? Who is paying for player bonuses?

It's done and clubs need to accept it so we can plan for next season. A decision was made.

 

I actually agree with probably everything you’ve said on this subject.
City should have been more stubborn.
A decision (indicative) has been made.

Yes, Tranmere are thinking of themselves. If City do get a chance to benefit, let’s see if Rupp steps up. What have we got to lose, a bit of face? That’s already happened.

 

Just read Tranmere, Stevenage, Lincoln, Barnsley and Ipswich have all submitted proposals.

What a complete mess! Only maybe and say maybe Lincoln have no gain but if the season did continue they could go down.

Stevenage putting a proposal in like Hearts in Scotland for me is damn right embarrassing.

 

Mate, you know I have bashed Rupp many a times but I just can't on this. How on earth do you expect him to sign a new squad in a month? Yes, you could say to all the 10 players we have said that they will be leaving at the end of June that you can play but most won't and won't be motivated too.

It's too late mate. It's done. If we wanted it badly enough then we should have said when the season was cancelled.

 

I don't know the exact figures involved but I have a good idea and I ask you this. Would you be prepared to spend the best part of seven figures, yes 7 on what is effectively a lottery with little realistic chance of being the one winner, let alone the playing quality of our squad odds themselves being against on the pitch. Would you do that just to loose it all and even in the unlikely event you won the financial rewards would be unlikely to cover the expenditure?
I know I wouldn't. Much rather give SM the money to build a squad capable of next season's auto spot.

 

Interesting snippet from the proposal.
Wonder what the stats were at the other end of the table?
"An eloquent demonstration of this is that three out of the four clubs relegated from League One in season 18/19 would not have been relegated had PPG been applied at the same stage last season."

 

Tend to agree. The current squad is simply not good enough to attain promotion.

And would those who have been released really put a shift in and potentially get injured knowing they are out of work soon? That could be said of all clubs of course.

That could lead to clubs playing a starting 11 that was weak and inexperienced as released players report an "injury" and that would make a mockery of the whole process.

 

Put in those terms, no.
I haven’t seen quoted costs as high as those. Do I know the integrity of the players - no.
If a salary cap comes in next year, would the deferred funds be relevant - don’t know.
Should the option be considered - yes. Maybe it will be dismissed as not viable, but we can at least look and weigh up the chances against the others that might be involved.
I want my team to progress , but not if there is a risk of financial peril.

 

Pablo, I believe the risk is massive. I know many on here question what goes on behind the scenes at VP but I suspect the weighing up of chances and costs was done weeks ago when we voted to end the season.

 

I believe you.
Devils advocate - if we’d been 7th in the table and invited to a play-off tournament, what would we have done?

 

Who knows. It will be interesting to see what those who are in that position today end up doing.

 

Tough. Can't use pointless stats like that.

The season has to finish somehow and if not going to play then PPG it has to be.

 

My problem was it was that it was a weak comment by us and Port Vale because yes it might be 7 figures at the time but clearly div 2 clubs are not paying for the testing.

I think we were weak and acted like a charity yet again.