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Derby sack Keogh

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Storck, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. Storck

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    Derby have sacked their captain over his involvement in the drink driving crash which saw two other team mates get banned from driving.

    not sure what Keogh involvement was or why he has been sacked whereas the other two have just been fined. Is it because he was captain and should have been a role model? Whichever way it is good to see a club calling out bad behaviour by players

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50242841
     
  2. Tony Wilkinson

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    Shame, I like him, been a good servant for Derby, sounded like his injuries could well have been career threatening....
     
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    Has a lot to do with him being injured for the rest of the season, and his age.
    Seems if you're young with a resale value you get a fine.
     
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    Definitely a case for constructive dismissal I'd have thought. Unless they've paid him up in full I suppose.
     
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    Apparently not, though I believe an offer was made.
     
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  6. Storck

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    If they have sacked him for gross misconduct there wouldn’t be a pay off. He has 14 days to appeal. He could go for unfair dismissal but not constructive dismissal as he has been sacked
     
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    Fair enough, unfair dismissal then and given that two of his team mates who were in the same incident escaped with their jobs I reckon his case would be very strong.
     
  8. Storck

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    a lot will depend on previous issues and also what they are saying he did. We don’t actually have any detail about why they have made the decision.
     
  9. NorthernMonkey

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    I think that's pretty obvious.
     
  10. Storck

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    What then?
     
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    I think Derby would have been well within their rights to sack him for gross misconduct, but they have shot themselves in the foot by not also sacking Bennett and Lawrence, whose behaviour was arguably worse as they were both drink driving and left the scene of the accident (although returning 45 minutes later).
    It strikes me Derby have seen an opportunity to cut their losses and save £24k a week on an ageing player with a career threatening injury, after their earlier offer of a very much reduced wage was declined, and nothing to do with what he actually did in terms of gross misconduct. The PFA are involved so I reckon a settlement will be reached.
     
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    I'm really not sure what he did wrong in relations to others. He wasn't driving the cars unlike Bennett and Lawrence so he hasn't committed a crimianl offence and sure you could say as a senior player he should have known better than to stay for more drinks after the team outing but he wasn't even the only senior player to do so, as we all know Tom Huddlestone stayed and snapchatted his team mates getting drunk. Yet Huddlestone has been rewardeded by being made Captain (which may very well come with a financial benefit).

    Lawerence and Bennett should have been sacked right away and if Keogh is getting sacked then Huddlestone should be following him (and any other of the senior players who stayed back for more drinks rather than doing the right thing and ending the night before they all got so drunk they weren't thinking logically so declined the driver service)
     
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    Come on, we know how this works. Bennett and Lawrence are worth a tidy sum on the football market, Keogh is worth the grand sum of fk all. Keogh takes the PR rap and gets paid well for his leaving the club while the other two protagonists pretty much get off scott free because of their value. Can see why Derby have done it even though it comes out looking like PR disaster it truly is. Business wise though its the right decision and no other club would have done any different.
     
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    Except as he has been sacked for gross misconduct, as I understand it Keogh is getting no payment whatsoever unless the PFA and his agent can secure a settlement.
     
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    There is no way they could sack Keogh without sacking the other two. It looks bad the way Derby have handled but i’m not sure they could have done it any other way.
     
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    Guessing they sacked him because there was no value to them anymore. Long term injury at his age.

    Got a feeling he will be able to appeal or do something about it.
     
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  18. Storck

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    Looks like they have sacked him for putting himself at risk of injury. But again this is only a guess. Which ever way they have saved themself a load of cash. They will have had legal advice that they were on safe legal grounds for doing it whilst not sacking the others too.
     
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    I wonder what happens with his rehabilitation
     
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    They'll likely justify it on the basis that he's a senior player, the club captain and therefore he carries an extra burden of responsibility.
     
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