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The massive rise in Carbon Dioxide levels from the 1950s coincides with the massive increase in the level of vehicle use which has no doubt contributed, The fact that the EU supported the use of diesel engines because they were heavily manufactured in the EU despite evidence they were a major polluter also has contributed,

 

Your capacity to twist evidence knows no bounds.
The EU (and UK) actively encouraged diesel use because they were led to believe that diesel was less polluting than petrol. It subsequently emerged that car manufacturers had doctored the research evidence, and their cars, to hide the truth.

 

You really are a bit of a clot, Who gave the UK/EU the evidence to say it was less polluting? The manufacturers!!! There is no twisting only in your mind, You state that EU manufacturers doctored the results of emissions yet dispute why they did this, It was to protect the major EU manufacturers who are the biggest producers of diesel engines in the world so they could go on polluting and making engines that did this, The other claim that pollution especially carbon dioxide levels has increased due to the massive increase in cars and vans is self evident as in 1950 there was 8million cars registered in the USA yet only 8 years later that had grown to 68 million cars in the USA and has grown to around 1 Billion worldwide all polluting the air around us and contributing to global warming,
You really should check your facts before accusing people of twisting evidence because to most it appears that it is you that does it more than most

 

er, we'd still be rubbing sticks together to get energy if it weren't for fossil fuels.......

 

Strange debating technique for sure.

 

The governments knew full well what was going on when they turned everyone towards diesel powered cars.

 

Nice one day the planet will cleanse itself of us, we have developed the power to destroy this planet, so i have little faith in just assuming any change we are experiencing is just natural. The fact humans could develop things that could destroy the very thing that gives us life should show our ultimate flaw. One day things will come home to roost. We think we are above everything else on this planet and that our technology will solve everything, but it won’t.

 

Surely in your highly opinionated position, you have to sort out your priorities. You come on here raving about climate change and the effects it's having on the world, you have the opportunity to do something that you would see as positive about it, but have bigger family commitments.

You then have the cheek to call everyone idiots that don't agree with you. The issue is, your campaigns will never get the support form people that are on the fence about it, because of people like yourself and your attitude toward others opinions.

 

One or two of them look like they haven't see soap & water for months.


Don't know about you @Tony Wilkinson but I think they fit in well with those other pillocks who have their own agenda on brexit, what happend to honorable MPs who quit there parties go Independent and offer their seat up to a bye election.

And this lass certainly fits in, an out and out lair.

 

Why do owt though? It’s just all another disaster movie, yawn.

 

Because my experience is that those that whinge rarely do anything else but want others to do it

 

That's your view... But there Rr many others that will disagree.

 

No one is disputing that car engines, diesel or petrol, are major polluters, and that the massive growth in car use is a significant problem.
But all governments around the world have promoted car use and manufacture. To single out the EU is ridiculous.
And to suggest that the EU deliberately promoted diesel use for its own ends is also ridiculous. Everyone thought that diesel was less polluting than petrol until it emerged that car manufacturers had been fiddling the figures. Our own government slashed road tax on diesel cars so that people would choose diesel, for environmental reasons.

 

The EU is culpable in promotion and defence of the diesel engine, They are the worlds largest commercial manufacturer and hundreds of thousands of jobs depended on it along with the income to those countries within the EU, They helped the manufacturers massage figures and those manufacturers paid experts to promote the diesel engine, The fact that Gordon Brown ignored the now growing evidence to the contrary and that particulates were hugely damaging to the atmosphere and human health and promoted the diesel engine is a judgement on him and his gullibility and stupidity

BTW it is interesting the EU has given a very light fine and minor investigation in to the emissions scandal while the USA with much stricter controls have fined them hundreds of millions and some may go to jail on the USA side

 

How did the EU 'help manufacturers massage the figures'? Where's your evidence for this?

How do you know that Gordon Brown ignored 'mounting evidence' against diesel'? It's now 11 years since Brown was PM. Back then most people believed that diesel was cleaner than petrol. Why single out Brown?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41985715

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/22/the-rise-diesel-in-europe-impact-on-health-pollution