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  1. EdwinB

    EdwinB Fringe Player

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    Oh yeah another old un with CITY connections. So much vision you have
     
    #68 EdwinB, Nov 29, 2020
  2. city gent 65

    city gent 65 Fringe Player

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    i dont think we will stay up this season no matter who we bring in in january this team just dont have the ability to turn this shit show around. we have been told countless times we will be ready for the transfer window yet we have somehow ended up with probably the worst team we have ever had and a management team who have no idea how to get a team to perform at any decent level, the biggest worry is IF the club will survive relegation
     
    #70 city gent 65, Nov 29, 2020
  3. Ulysses S Grant

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    Does the National League have a wage cap?
     
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    #72 Ulysses S Grant, Nov 29, 2020
  4. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    No
     
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    #73 Fordy117, Nov 29, 2020
  5. Ulysses S Grant

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    Excellent newd
     
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    #74 Ulysses S Grant, Nov 29, 2020
  6. Keefly Bantam

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    You pi$$ed off as you were edged out? Being our football expert and all that.
     
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    #76 Keefly Bantam, Nov 29, 2020
  7. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    No, I am pi&&ed off for fans that keep getting mugged off.
     
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    #77 Fordy117, Nov 29, 2020
  8. Keefly Bantam

    Keefly Bantam Important Player
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    Who voted you as the fans champion?
     
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    #78 Keefly Bantam, Nov 29, 2020
  9. JonButterfield

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    What did he send you, mate?
     
    #79 JonButterfield, Nov 29, 2020
  10. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    No one but maybe we should take that vote.
     
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    #80 Fordy117, Nov 29, 2020
  11. How

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    A good portion of our squad don’t count in full towards the cap due to them signing or having contracts before it came in. We still have plenty of room left over for a few bodies in. I am sure we can get at least 4 or 5 signings
     
    #84 How, Nov 30, 2020
  12. How

    How Knows Football
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    It is frightening but seems to be the way sadly. Particularly under Rhodes. Let’s see if it’s changed this time around
     
    #87 How, Nov 30, 2020
  13. Faithful Bantam

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    I wonder....If decisions were made to terminate player contracts, would the cost of paying the contract up, count as spend against the Cap?
     
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    #90 Faithful Bantam, Nov 30, 2020
  14. Dennis

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    It might do but not in all situations. A player whose contract is due to expire in June could be paid up almost in full and be quids in after tax if the club structures it properly. And then be free to take up another job as a free agent.
     
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  15. Faithful Bantam

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    And we have many players out of contract this summer. Hastening a few departures and bringing forward some of our summer recruitment, where we can, might be essential.
     
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    #94 Faithful Bantam, Nov 30, 2020
  16. Bigrod

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    Having had a look at the squad, then I think 18 are senior professionals, and the other 10 are under the age of 22 at the beginning of the season.

    So 28 professionals on the wage bill.

    I anticipate that Anthony O’Connor and Clayton Donaldson will be on a higher salary. With other senior professionals such as Billy Clarke, Lee Novak Gareth Evans and Richard O’Donnell being on slightly higher wages.

    Using a simple equation of £1500000 divided by 28 professionals equals £53,571 each. Clearly this will not happen. So if the top two earners are on circa £80,000 a year (just over £1,500 a week). The next four on £67,500, then that leaves a budget of £1,070,000. Given some of the overblown comments about footballers salaries on here and elsewhere, if we say the average across the remaining 12 senior professionals is £1,000 a week (£52,000 per annum), then that is a further £624,000. Elliot Watt although under the seniors age, has been recruited from a Premiership club, so a salary somewhere between, say £36,000. If we anticipate that the seven academy players are on £25,000 each and that Samuels and Hossanah cost us £25,000 for our contribution to their wages, then I think that is a fair stab at the breakdown (happy for someone ‘in the know’ to come up with a different formula). So the sums would work out with about £200,000 to spend.

    We have to remember that the salary cap includes things like appearance money, win bonus (we will be saving a lot there), goal/assist bonus, etc so that could reduce the sum even further.
     
    #97 Bigrod, Nov 30, 2020
  17. Old city man

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    I think we need a minimum 4 players in the window.I would prefer
    9/10 but you can't have everything.
     
    #98 Old city man, Nov 30, 2020
  18. How

    How Knows Football
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    Have you forgot to count the fact that anyone already under contract before the salary cap was introduced is a flat figure regardless of wages?
    Still costing the club money but not impacting on the salary cap
     
    #99 How, Nov 30, 2020
  19. Jordan

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    Looking at the EFL site, under the cap rules it says there are 22 players allowed to be registered. Anyone under the age of 21 on July 1st wont have to be registered. Think that leaves us with 19 registered players, so 3 guys over 21. For next season (if we survive), the registration rules only allow 20 players to be registered but still will registered anyone signed before July 30th 2020 to count as £1,000 against the cap.

    Our over 21's: O'Donnell (32), Hosannah (21 - before July), Longridge (25), Paudie (23), BRE (29), A O'Connor (28), Pritchard (28), Cooke (23), Novak (32), Donaldson (36), Ismail (26), Hornby (25), French (21 - before July), Clarke (32), Evans (32), Sutton (23), Wood (24), Guthrie (27), DMH (23) currently make up our registered players.

    Trying to find it but from an old WOAP article or maybe even a T&A article after the window shut, I'm sure they said it's around 350-400K left in the budget. Worth remembering that transfer fees, agent fees and signing on fees aren't included in the cap but bonuses are. Either way, this squad needs probably 4 or 5 quality players to drag us out the dirt, so either we luck out with a youth loanee who is actually good, or we need to lose a handful of these players but i cant see many taking a punt on our trash.
     
    #101 Jordan, Nov 30, 2020
  20. Jordan

    Jordan Impact Sub

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    Worth a 6 month deal. Cant be any worse than playing BRE ever again, even if he does have to sit on the A1 for a bit longer than we'd like.
     
    #104 Jordan, Nov 30, 2020
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