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This incident happened in June. He only put the private plate on the car in the last 2 weeks if my memory of his (largely boring) Instagram stories is correct. Not unusual to buy a car and then need a few weeks to sort out the paperwork on the private reg transfer.

 

Why did the police not cuff his girlfriend?
Had the other passenger been a black male i'm sure he would have been cuffed as well.
Had the police suspected the car was carrying arms I would have thought everyone in the car would have been subjected to the same before a search of the car was made.

 

Enough to start playing football again in September? Hope not...

 

Interesting reading this could be the next Jack Reacher book

 

They're thinking the same as every other business rushing to virtue signal.

 

Reading that through again it looks like a 12 year old has written it. 'The incident caused 'our player' serious alarm and distress.' Honestly, our club is so tinpot sometimes.

 

Wonder if the season ticket holders can start a class action against him?

 

The 2 Athletes who commited traffic offences ie hard braking hard acceleration driving on the wrong side of the road , the same athletes who police body cam footage proved they did and said nothing wrong , them 2 athletes ?.

 

Last time I was stopped was sometime in the 1970's, pissed as a fart after a night at Batley variety club, probably had 5 pints or so....only thing bobbies were interested in was getting a light of the wife for their ciggies...

 

Dunno, maybe the bobbies weren't sent out from HQ especially, could be they were just in the area when Ben's car was flagged up...

 

Should they have waited for armed backup ?, should they have gone in hard ?, or should they have followed what they felt was the correct approach in their opinion and acted on instinct ?. Should Police follow any guidelines and go in hard , there is potential in any situation for violence should it become procedure to have arms " just in case " . The Police in this country dont carry fiearms , the do most other areas in in the world , they try to defuse most situations and act with a common sense approach , the Police themselves have rejected being armed , they put themselves in dangerous situations daily to protec the general public and by en large do a fantastic job .

 

Would you have preferred them to simply let a potentially armed and dangerous criminal simply walk/drive off. The fact is we rely on a largely unarmed police force to confront and deal with these situations everyday.

 

You drive a car legally and you've never been stopped. There's BAME people out there who also drive a car legally and have been stopped several times. That's the difference. That's your white privilege that you're blissfully unaware of.

 

White priviledge ?, what to be legal ? , thousands of BAME drivers dont get stopped % wise i would be willing to bet nore non BAME people are stopped on a daily basis . Should the Police have escalated the BRE situation with regards the intel on the car ?, full armed response - surrounded by armed police ?, or should they use instinct ? . I'm not really bothered about my " blissfull unawarenes " i do know that non compliance with the law and breaking said law should be investigated whatever race creed or colour .

 

Great idea. Get a couple of players who played in an era when black players suffered racial abuse week in week out to give BRE a tutorial in how to just carry on without making it look like it hurts.

 

How about it contributes to a fairer system of policing rather than racial profiling.

 

I'm interested in what you see as a "fairer system" since all preemptive policing is done on perception and profiling.

The only way to stop people feeling like they're being targeted is to stop things like searches all together or to actually set quotas. What are your thoughts?

 

I think they should always have to act upon intelligence and as far as possible be able to back it up with evidence before searching someone or stopping their car.

In the case of the athletes, the police are saying they were stopped because they were driving erratically. All police cars should have cameras to record this as part of their evidence. All police officers should wear body-cams. There's no argument then.

In the case of BRE the reason for the stop is supposedly that his plates were on record. This should be easy to investigate, either they were or they weren't and I presume we'll find out in time now that it's being looked into.

I've got absolutely no problem with the police stopping and searching any person as long as they have a reasonable reason to do so. That's their job.

 

That's all fair I think.

I'm not sure whether we'll find much more out with BRE, if the plates are on the system they probably won't release details and if they aren't they'll just say it was an erroneous "ping". He will no doubt get an apology for distress either way.

As I mentioned I've been stopped 4 times, none of which was evidenced based but I kinda just accepted them since I viewed it as the polices job to be visible and proactive but I see that not everyone take it the same way.

Are you therefore happy that more drug and weapon crimes would go undetected as a result?

 

The police acted upon intelligence of which they didn't know was flawed. Contrary to popular belief police don't pull people over because of the colour of their skin, its a myth. They pull people over on the belief a crime or a breaking of the law has been committed. The colour of their skin is merely a byproduct of the system. By coincidence i'm just watching the business of drugs on netflix and the polices time and effort in dealing with the substances is something that needs looking at in great detail.
Back with the BRE incident, although i'm disappointed at the clubs open comments on social media on the incident, i'm a bit bemused on people having a go at the lad in question. I know if i'd been pulled over, handcuffed and have a live taser within feet of me whilst protesting my innocence i'd be more than a bit pissed off.