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attendance

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by bantam316, Apr 13, 2018.

  1. bantam316

    bantam316 Impact Sub

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    Why can't the club give the proper attendance ? instead of counting every season ticket holder regardless of attendance, surely the club know the actual attendance since everyone enters the stadium via turnstiles and these are counted somewhere right ? so why lie ?

    Definitely under 10k at the Shrewsbury game.

    EDIN OUT!
     
  2. Bigrod

    Staff Member Moderator P.L.24/25 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 30 Qatar 2022 Entrant Supporter

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    I understand that Pulse 'guesstimated' the attendance at about 8,500, which would seem to be about correct to me.

    I guess you get the official figure as HMCR would want an audit of how many tickets sold, for tax purposes.

    However from a Health and Safety issue, I wonder how reporting an unreliable figure helps?

    Perhaps it needs to be reported as tickets sold rather than 'Attendance'?
     
  3. Hendrie FC

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    The official attendance on my couch last night was 2. However, one ST holder (Junior HendrieFC went footie training and then to the pub). But for HMRC purposes, let's say 2.
     
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  4. RonnieBrown

    RonnieBrown Emergency Backup

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    Disagree, Rod.

    As per HSE would expect ............ Attendance is surely those at the actual game ? Whilst HMCR need to be informed, so do HSE, from two entirely different perspectives, and obviously differing results.

    The solution ?
    For HMRC, Att = ST's + other ticket sales. ?
    For HSE, Att = The total count of Turnstile entries.

    With todays technology, surely both can be run by a post 2K derived computer ? ;)
     
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  5. Bigrod

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    I actually think you and I agree. Tickets sold is currently used for Attendance Figures and I guess HMRC data.

    A HSE figure based on bodies in the ground should really be the actual attendance. That would include Scouts, Agents,Managers, Press, Guests, Friends/Family of players/staff/owners/staff working in the venue.
     
  6. RonnieBrown

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    Based on your above post, we do, Rod. Sorry for any confusion.;)
     
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  7. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    I can’t understand why it bothers people so much. The figure they give out is the number of tickets sold for the match. What’s wrong with that
     
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  8. Bigrod

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    I guess there was a massive discrepancy last night. It was not about 5% down, but more like 60% down.
     
  9. RonnieBrown

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    Sorry Park, but it would appear the only people interested in actual sales, is HMRC. So hence why it 'bothers' so many. The true figure would also reflect any atmosphere, and the importance of a game, etc. Hope you don't mind me saying ? :)
     
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  10. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    I don’t mind at all . But I can’t help thinking it’s another stick to beat the club with
     
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  11. RonnieBrown

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    No worries. However I know you and I are wise enough to already know our true figures are airbrushed ? ;)
    I think the few people wishing to have a stick to beat us with, are other Clubs' supporters ?
     
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  12. city gent 65

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    I never buy anything from the kiosks because its vastly over priced, but they must have seen a huge drop in takings last night, beer, pop, etc they can hope to sell at the next home game but alot of the pies must have ended up in bin
     
  13. YungNath

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    they actually ran out of steak pie in the 2013 suite last night, a shit game i can deal with but this is a step too far EDIN OUT
     
  14. Ulysses S Grant

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    Yes Ronnie, attendance and income don't need to be linked at all. As long as we declare all income hmrc they really don't need to know how many were in the ground on a given day, but from a h&s standpoint it's vital.
     
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  15. Ulysses S Grant

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    Makes a change, someone agreeing with the parkmeister
     
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  16. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    In what way in case of an emergency are they going to count them out. Makes no difference to health and safety
     
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  17. Ulysses S Grant

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    Imagine on 11/5/85 there had been 300 more in the stand than the attendance said and no one ever accounted for them. Of course it matters.
     
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  18. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    They didn’t run out of chips though. There were loads left when we left at full time. Selection of pies too
     
  19. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    No one was counting people out on that day. People left by an exit possible. Some hung around some left straight away. No one was taking note of exact numbers
     
  20. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    With due respect that is rubbish. The only time the attendance figures matter is if the ground is over full
     
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