Most liked posts in thread: Anthony O’Connor .. & any other 'Off Topic' Issues!

Well, I know the square root of feck all about Drury's role in what goes on behind the scenes, in common with 95% of City fans. So I naturally assumed you must have some rational basis/insider knowledge to make such a suggestion. You described him as 'the real architect' of the disastrous day. That's a very bold, emphatic statement which strongly suggested that you must know something that the rest of us don't.

What exactly is it about Drury that makes you think that he had anything to do with it? Do you know anything about his character that leads you to this view? What 'facts' are presented that support it?

You didn't just speculate; you went as far as complaining that no one else is giving him flak for an incident that only you have ever suggested he had any role in. That's bizarre.

It appears you've completely fabricated a moral outtage about something you know nothing about. You've decided you don't like Drury, for whatever reason, and feel that gives you the right to manufacture a conspiracy theory about him based on no evidence whatsoever.

And no, 'most posters' actually don't speculate on what our players are earning. A very small minority do. Not sure why that gives you the right to conjure up a baseless allegation against someone who may be entirely innocent of what you're suggesting.

 

We're going back a long time so forgive me if I don't remember all the facts rights. The arm band incident happened just after Hopkin walked and Drury was made caretaker manager, right? He took the decision to strip AOC of the captaincy and give it to Caddis. (Now we'll take a time-out on stating facts while I just interject my own opinion here based on no insider knowledge). IMO that was a poor decision. At HT Caddis is injured and AOC gets the armband back. (Reasonable to assume that this decision is Drury's since he is in charge). As others have speculated AOC was now very confused as to why he wasn't good enough to be captain in the first half but suddenly is again now. (My opinion again..returning the armband compounds the original mistake of taking it off him.) Pretty much all of what has happened so far has been orchestrated by Drury decisions and I haven't felt the need to fabricate any of it. We all know what happens next. This is the bit that everyone focusses on and AOC has been universally condemned for it. What I am merely trying to point out is take Drury's decisions out of the equation and AOC remains captain. He doesn't therefore feel aggrieved and throw the armband in the net. Why should he? He never felt the need to throw it in the net on all the previous occasions he's been captain. I remember the post match interview with Drury when he was asked about the armband incident. He claimed to not know about it and stated he was off to get to the bottom of it. Not long after came the apology from AOC along with the stitching excuse. I was tempted to put the *@?$-and-bull stitching excuse but that's merely my opinion based on my assessment of it's credibility. I have stated previously that I suspect that this stitching excuse was cooked up by Drury although I also left the door open to the possibility that it was all AOC idea. I am happy to withdraw this accusation as it is based on no firm evidence and has clearly caused offence.

AOC has had plenty of criticism. My point is merely that if Drury hadn't have taken the decisions he took the incident doesn't happen and in that respect I think AOC is unfortunate. I don't know any of the protagonists in this episode so I cannot claim to either like or dislike Drury. I believe it's reasonable, based on the facts as they are reported, to make an assessment of Drury's role. I believe it's reasonable to be critical especially as we lost the game by a big margin and Drury himself invited the blame for that on himself. I find it bizarre that you're taking my points as some sort of outlandish conspiracy theory allegation especially when compared to some of the language used on here. I am very sorry if I have caused offence.

 

I'd say you'd have been in a very big majority @Bigrod, most fans would have been delighted to see most of last season "losers" shipped out, all credit to Anthony for buckling down and showing us his true potencial.

 

Reckon hes the best defender in the league my POTY so far, massive change to last season!

 

Say what you like, but you've railroaded several of our current players as woeful and nowhere near good enough - you've said the manager hasn't got a clue - now your overview seems to be that those players who were awful last season are now doing okay because they're doing what Bowyer wants?

Surely bad players under a bad manager does not equal acceptable performances?

Unless you're willing to retract your nonsense about Bowyer being a bad manager, I'm afraid you can't really call other people out on their opinions of players.

Regardless, I'm nowhere near ready to forgive AOC, and I couldn't care less if he leaves. Paudie and BRE will be more than sufficient.

 

Fully agree with you on this..

You can't disrespect the clubs armband.. unforgivable!

 

Exactly.

It's one thing to say that playing for a club is not an honour and you're not really bothered, it's quite another to say that CAPTAINING the team means absolutely zilch and you really could not care less.

O'Connor chose to prioritise his animosity towards the club/situation over being a professional and wearing our armband with pride. I guarantee he didn't think he would still be here now at that point, so I'm not interested in hearing him waffling out about how everything is for the team.

EDIT: to clarify that point, there isn't a single thing he can say that will erase his actions last year. That's partly because I don't want to hear him say anything.

I'm not going to hassle the guy out on the pitch, but I'm not going to respect him as a character either.

 

I can't believe you're comparing throwing some elastic material on the ground to burning all of your money

 

Which is all well and good whilst we're winning. What about if we lose a few and stay sliding down the table? Will he still have that effort, drive and desire? Will he still be praising the group as a whole?

Hopefully we'll never find out but he doesn't get a completely free pass from me just because of a decent start, he'll need to maintain it over a much longer period to really start to win me over.

 

I thought it had been confirmed on here that the goal bonus affair was just a very poorly timed and ill-judged joke

 

No, I still will be for sure.

 

I'm not. I'm breaking down the comment that it's "just a piece of elastic". The OP in my opinion has totally lost perspective, or the love of life, just viewing anything from the material it's made from, and totally forgetting about the meaning behind it.. He'd probably be the first to complain if our next kit is a pink paisley patterned affair - but you know, who cares about dropping the claret and amber, it's just a playing kit right? Probably not the best club to compare to atm, but look at how Cardiff City fans revolted when their bluebird colours were taken away. Or maybe Cardiff City are a good club to compare to - they obviously don't have standards, morals and a respect for the value for the club and football - something that O'Connors actions reflected last season when he threw off that piece of elastic.

 

Don't get the Edin comparison - I don't recall O'Connor making bad decisions that affected the whole club, but I realise you need to mention him in association with myself or Park so hope it gives you some kind of closure.

 

Didn't you deny the negative impact of Rahic also?

How many times can you deny the plain and obvious while asking for empirical evidence?

 

There was other stuff going on behind the scenes...player revolts...... players do not get stripped of the captaincy without good reason.....but I don't think there is any need to dwell on it now as we are second in the league and just kept a clean sheet against one of the best teams in the league. They're playing for Bowyer now and making a positive contribution so we need to get behind the lads.

 

What on earth does that mean?

 

It is good we have Paudie waiting in the wings. BRE is a red card waiting to happen with the way he tackles. It is good to have a classy centre half like Paudie waiting to step in when BRE's next red arrives.

 

Been edited by our moderation team, Saturday both BRE and O'Connor were worthy of the MOTM award, and have been a good pairing when they have played together, it must be difficult for Bowyer to not shoe horn Paudie into the starting 11 but it would be harsh on either to lose their place.
Lets hope last Saturdays clean sheet is one of many to come.

 

But we're far better with three quality central defenders, as opposed to two and a cheaper 'OK' one. Why make us weaker? I was more of a Paudie fan than Anthony one earlier in the season and was actually perplexed as to why Bowyer chose the latter. However, without that experienced coolness that O'Connor should on Saturday we would, IMO, have conceded