Quantcast
  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice

Most liked posts in thread: Adams & Sparks out!

  1. Biker

    Biker Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2019
    Messages:
    1,443
    Likes Received:
    2,161
    Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

    If that view makes you feel better congrats!

    Ask an outsider they will remember us in the premier league and now we are treading water in league two….this is long term decline
     
  2. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    14,507
    Long term deal means nothing mate.

    If results continue like this he will go.

    The problem Spark is doing like DMG said and letting Adams not prove himself at the club. Get results. Don’t allow him to do anything until he’s proves himself as a Bradford City manager.

    2 wins in 20 shouldn’t be dressed up because he signed a 3 year contract. It’s unacceptable and sackable.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #926 Fordy117, Dec 5, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2021
  3. andyc

    andyc Impact Sub
    P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    3,141
    Likes Received:
    5,913
    It certainly was. I just wonder which hat he was wearing at the time , Bradford city director or Flamingo land owner.
    It never sat right with me at the time and still does'nt . It is stacked far too heavy in the pension funds favour.
    If i had the money , i would try and buy the stadium , could charge the club a lot less and still make a decent return on my investment.
     
  4. Bantamsteve

    Bantamsteve Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    7,757
    Likes Received:
    9,887
    Fingers crossed you win the Euromillions lottery @andyc@andyc
    It's a game of poker Bradford City need a ground to play in have very strong emotional ties and would alienate a big percentage of fans if they moved
    On the other hand Mr Gibb needs Bradford City at valley parade for his income in todays market the land is not worth a great deal indeed it's value would not exceed the cost of flattening the ground
    A question of who blinks first Mr Sparks or Mr Gibb I know where my money is on
    However we do have a chairman reportedly worth in excess of 100 million
    Fancy That !!!!!
     
  5. Loyalbantam

    Loyalbantam Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    4,847
    Likes Received:
    5,413
    Why would Gibb sell the ground back to us when currently he has a guaranteed £500k rental income.
    The only motive for him selling would be the threat of us leaving VP and thus leaving the pension fund with no further income.
    Many on here though think it’s not possible to achieve that outcome with those kind of negotiations.
    My personal view is that giving notice to leave VP at the end of the lease in 2028 is the only way we have any chance of re-owning the stadium. And yes it might mean groundsharing with someone for a few seasons but again there are many on here that don’t think that’s possible either.
     
  6. Loyalbantam

    Loyalbantam Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    4,847
    Likes Received:
    5,413
    What you do is line up possible groundsharing options, make a reasonable offer for the stadium close to the deadline of when we’d need to give notice. If the offer is declined, we walk away and leave VP empty until Gibb backs down.
     
  7. JonButterfield

    JonButterfield Star Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    14,758
    Likes Received:
    24,896
    Maybe, but that's a lot of extra bums to put on our seats!

    I think for sure we'd be hitting 18-19,000 with cheap season tickets, not sure about 25k, but who knows you could be right.
     
  8. Onside87

    Onside87 Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2018
    Messages:
    2,027
    Likes Received:
    3,298
    You mean accused of indecent exposure and his tax fraud at Boston Utd? Fair enough we all make mistakes. Jamie Lawrence for example.
    I’m pretty sure Bobby Campbell was investigated in his later life for fraud allegations.
    Funny how me agreeing with the posh chairman on the fact I don’t think Steve Evans would be a terrible manager for us has turned into liable accusations thrown about. Each to their own.
     
  9. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    14,507
    With cheap tickets.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    14,507
    It’s not irrelevant at all and I have done the maths.

    You are basing things at the same price. Other factors also have to be concerned.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. Ulysses S Grant

    Ulysses S Grant Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    11,586
    Likes Received:
    15,112
    Like the loss of pie sales, reduced corporate sales, reduced shop sales because the increase in price reduces our fan base ?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    14,507
    No, it doesn’t work that way.

    The club needs to start again.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #945 Fordy117, Dec 5, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2021
  13. XCIV_Bantam

    XCIV_Bantam Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    2,473
    Likes Received:
    2,169
    Hes had six months. Im looking forward to what you say after January.
    The 3 year contract does mean something! He will be paid off it either way!
    And like i said previously with better players come jan!
     
  14. XCIV_Bantam

    XCIV_Bantam Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    2,473
    Likes Received:
    2,169
    This makes no sense whatsoever. More fans is more profitable than expensive tickets. You put prices up (ideally) when demand goes up as the amount of fans in the club stays the same.
     
  15. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,463
    Likes Received:
    14,507
    It wouldn’t make sense to you. You can’t even tell me how Adams is going to turn around 2 wins in 20. He should stay as results don’t matter to you.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  16. simons (woking bantam)

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,098
    Likes Received:
    5,741
    I am not sure that is fair on the fans this season, you have to take into account the economic situation and the overall wealth of the Bradford supporters catchment - always remember cheap is only relevant to an individuals circumstances
     
  17. JonButterfield

    JonButterfield Star Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    14,758
    Likes Received:
    24,896
    60%.

    Our average attendance is around 15,000.

    We did have 17,624 for the first game (Oldham), but that's only 70%.

    We haven't had 75 % attendance since November 2018, and that season we did it 3 times.
     
  18. TallinnBantam

    TallinnBantam Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    6,109
    Likes Received:
    8,158
    But we get bigger attendances because our season tickets are cheap. How many "walk ins" at full price do we get? If we got promoted, then overall running costs are going to be much higher, and I just can't see the cheap season ticket being carried on. But then again, we're promoted, playing a better class of opposition with (hopefully) a better team...so maybe that does attract more people to come and watch the games. But I can't see it being more people than we currently have on the cheap season ticket scheme. Our attendances are great - but in my eyes, it's false figures, because the income we get from those crowd figures, is probably less than a club (using your example of Huddersfield) in a higher league with lower attendances.

    Remember Rahic saying that he'd charge £1 for season tickets if we got promoted to the Prem? That kind of sums up what a crazy road this cheap season ticket scheme has set us on :)
     
  19. XCIV_Bantam

    XCIV_Bantam Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    2,473
    Likes Received:
    2,169
    not sure why you rate my opinion so much but here goes.

    Personally I do not think he is suited to the club at the minute when he gets the players in that he actually scouts and choses his self then he will be more suited to the club.

    Who do you think is best suited for this club at the minute manager wise?
     
  20. XCIV_Bantam

    XCIV_Bantam Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    2,473
    Likes Received:
    2,169
    I do get your reasoning and it is logical. but emotionally it would constantly remind me we are a small club. Personally I would like the size we have currently as it is pretty much a championship size club in practice. if someone wanted to come in buy the ground get us in the championship then sell up it would be a lot easier to do that here than say at colchester or salford.
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice