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2nd Round Draw

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bronco, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. Rocket

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    I can't make Peterborough league match i have other commitments like a booking at the Alhambra to see a comedy show. When we get through the replay i will be booking for the cup game should be a good day out .
     
  2. BoingBoing

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    And all that is fair. My point is aimed at those that don’t seem to be able to post a single comment without regurgitating the same stuff.

    You’re right, I have been vocal towards Rahic in the past and I wholeheartedly blame him for the mess we are in. But every post, every day? Even things that are clearly rumours started by shit stirrers and spread on here as gospel. I paid towards the fly-over because I believe Rahic should be accountable.

    However, where I differ from the likes of Dave and “his ilk”, is that I’m prepared to get behind the team and support them. And whilst doing that, not continue to post negatively against the club. He (Dave) has started to do it daily, irrespective of what the subject is.

    And unlike you, there are many thousands that ARE staying away and have categorically stated they will stay away until Rahic leaves. How does that help City now? For those that didn’t spend before (as Dave has mentioned), fair enough. I’m talking about those that did spend but refuse to in future so as to “not line Rahic’s pockets”. OUR club still needs our money to survive. If we starve the club of those finances, Hopkin’s hands will be further tightened. Do we really want that and the repurcussions that will inevitably follow? Do our fans actually want us to get relegated just to see off Rahic?

    For what it’s worth, my opinion is that Rahic and Rupp have seen sense of their own misgivings. They have brought in Rhodes to help them sort out their mess. Rahic apologised when he sacked Collins, brought in Hopkins and allowed the new man to bring in Jim O’Brien. He also said that future transfers will be handled by Hopkin and that he could bring in his own staff. Yes, Rahic said all this before Rupp and subsequently Rhodes did.

    So does this change anything? No, probably not, but the club need us to support it and I’m prepared to do that, at least until the January window, to see if promises are kept this time.

    Hope this clarifies.
     
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  3. BoingBoing

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    But that isn’t what has been written. And just looking at the attendances, you can see “season ticket holders” are staying away. Many have said they aren’t going to go and support their team whilst Rahic stays. Others say they will go (because tickets already paid for), but won’t renew next season and won’t spend a penny before then. These are the ones that I can’t understand why they give a shit about an FA Cup draw that they had no interest in anyway and would only cry that Rahic would pocket any money raised from a cup run.

    As for the 2nd part, I highlighted a key word because it is actually the biggest word in this sentence. It “was” being run may now be different, so surely we should just back the club until we can see nothing has changed and there’s been more false promises?!?!

    Get it?
     
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  4. Steve1970

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    Dont you think that these people (myself Inc) have seen enough to realise that until rahic definitely leaves the club they won't put money into it. The fa cup is the only way at the moment where people will not attend. Not everyone but most will stay away just because they are commenting on who we may or may not get in the next round doesn't mean they will attend but some may choose to go away to Peterborough if we get through as they won't be putting money or not as much if they pay on the day into the club. Without trawling through post I'm sure you said Julian was still answering to Edin if that does turn out to be true what do you think is going to change?
     
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  5. BoingBoing

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    Firstly, to save you from trawling, I said Rhodes is an advisor to both Rahic and Rupp. It will ultimately be the owners who accept that advice but I can’t see Rahic not listening - why bring him onboard otherwise?

    My point remains though. There are thousands of ST holders staying away in protest. There are many more that will continue to go to our league games but aren’t prepared to buy things they used to do.
    So why do these people give a shit about who we draw in the cups? They weren’t prepared to “put another penny into Rahic’s pockets”, so why would they be happy to see us get a plum tie at somewhere like either Manchester club or Liverpool?
     
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  6. Steve1970

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    Because at the end of the day they are still city supporters they will still follow the club.
    Just because they don't agree with what the owners are doing still doesn't mean they won't cheer the lads on at a game. If they want to comment on who they would like in the next round that's upto them.
     
  7. BoingBoing

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  8. WilsdenBantam

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    It does clarify things thanks, all I will say is I believe Bronco does still support the team on a matchday, whilst I agree with you the same people repeating themselves daily is boring, imo it has no affect on where the club are. Me staying away won't help City now, unless Rahic panics and gets out before he losses everything, as he isn't rich like Rupp. If Rahic left tomorrow, even if Rupp stayed I'd be at Oxford, I'm of the believe that whilst Rupp is culpable he isn't the reason we are in this state. It isn't financial imo, I'm sure others differ, it is about how Rahic is running the club which has brought the quality of the team down and imo created a toxic atmosphere behind the scenes at the club, it can't continue imo.

    If Rahic left because of those(us) staying away then i'd be very happy and think it would benefit us long term, as if Rahic is here next summer, I'd be shocked if the same crap doesn't keep happening and it could be a trip out of the league. You may think those staying away are doing harm, I don't. I saw us early season when the atmosphere was good and the crowds were still up, and we were dreadful. I firmly believe we will go down now(I actually still had hope when Hopkin came in), and that is whether fans turn up or not I don't think it'll make a difference. The only way to rebuild in the summer is with Rahic gone, I'm sure some will blame the stay aways should we go down, I'm not particularly bothered but I do think it's nonsense.

    As I say all this is just my opinion, I'm sure even a lot who are desperate for Rahic to go have all different reasons, because he's made so many mistakes.
     
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  9. Bronco

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    There is a simple salution for fellow posters who believe I turn everthing into an Edin bashing put me on ignore.
    I dont have a problem with fans voting with their feet or wallet we are all different staying away is not something Ive given much thought to Saturday is matchday for me.
    I might have a different view when the season finishes and we see how the owners have reacted to our present situation.
     
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  10. BoingBoing

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    Dave, we’ve always got on and I wouldn’t want to fall out with you over this. I certainly have no intention of putting you on ignore.

    My gripe is that recently you have turned from a poster with respectable views into just another Edin basher. We get that he’s the culprit for where we are. Some argue he will never change and has to be removed before they return. Others say they won’t invest another penny whilst Edin stays as it’s just money in his pocket. I personally disagree with both those views.

    But where I do get frustrated is that whenever I read ANY subject, it inevitably turns into another attempt to attack Rahic. Yes, he’s the fault, but I don’t want to read about it in every post. Just as I didn’t when James Hanson was here and was vilified for everything too
     
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  11. Disillusioned of Bingley

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    I am sure most of us get fed up of repeating ourselves about Rahic. But while his little fan club on here keeps telling us we're all wrong, not proper supporters, or even pathetic to want rid of him it is difficult to resist temptation to respond. I have put the two main culprits on ignore now.

    DoB
     
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  12. Steve1970

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    You'll have to take them off ignore if you want to see the comedy gold they come out with.......... :brig:
     
  13. BoingBoing

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    Are there any that actually have that belief? Are they totally deluded? Who are they, so I can stick them on my ignore too. If they can’t see what Rahic has done, then they shouldn’t be following football
     
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