BOYCOTT STARTS TOMORROW

As I'm a paid up member of ifollow, I'll have it on the laptop, but will mostly be watching Newcastle v Everton.

 

Like someone has said before, the first 500 away streams go to the home club, then we take the profits from that onward. However, that was a modification for behind the behind closed doors times. The EFL and iFollow had to re-adjust the revenue for clubs to make any money from iFollow streaming. For example, for the season 18/19, Bolton made just over £29,000 from iFollow, the whole season. Where as for the behind closed doors season, they were due to make around £350,000 from a mid-season estimate. That may well have gone up after the started playing well from christmas onward.

The way it worked before Covid, was the clubs playing would get 70% of the iFollow money, iFollow keep the other 30%, then of that 70% for the clubs, it would be shared through percentage of fans watching for their selected clubs. But as fans were at games then, clubs made next to sod all from streams. It should be better now as fans still aren't flooding to mid-week games, across the league attendances are way down for mid-week games, probably because of the ease of just watching it from home. I cant imagine the club makes a lot of money from iFollow even now, if they are back to the old contract.

I cant find anything publicly released to say if they've gone back to the former agreement now crowds are back, or if they are still running the covid agreement with iFollow.

 

If I hadn't already booked my flight to Mauritius to watch this game I certainly wouldn't bother with it.

 

According to this, the club made £500k from iFollow last season.

iFOLLOW SALES FIGURES: MAY | News | Bradford City (bradfordcityafc.com)

Like you state, different set up to this season.

 

Done some digging and still cant see anything publicly released on the current contact.

Yeah the Bolton article did say we were the only team outselling them, but we were outselling them by far. At the time, they were getting around 75% of the view we were. So us making an extra £150ish roughly against more then they did, does seem about right.

 

100% goes to city
We return to action on the road tomorrow, at Stevenage, and UK-based supporters will be able to catch all the action from the comfort of their own home.

City travel to Herfordshire looking to return to winning ways at the Lamex Stadium, with action on Tuesday February 8 set to get underway from 7.45pm.

iFollow video match passes are available ahead of the clash, for those unable to make it to Stevenage on the day.

On sale for just £10, the pass will enable supporters in the UK to tune in for all the pre-match build-up from 7.00pm, before enjoying all the action alongside live commentary provided by BBC Radio Leeds' Jamie Raynor.

Supporters are reminded that 100 per-cent of monies generated through the sale of iFollow video match passes for this fixture will be directed straight to Bradford City AFC.

For full details on streaming arrangements throughout the 2021/22 season, please CLICK HERE.

 

There could be no season ticket holders at all there and the club would still report 13,400

 

So, City get all our money from subscription 1, according to this.

 

Not only me that’s looked around and thought how on earth is that attendance

 

In any protest, there has to be unity. There won't be many on this site who have been watching City for longer than me. It's each to their own, but my stance is that my seat will remain empty and the club will not get not one penny more from me until, at least, Adams is gone. If any fans feel as strongly as I do about the current situation, if I can do it, despite my long association, I'm sure other like minded fans can.

I will gladly contribute financially to any viable, visual protest to get this club moving in the right direction.

 

That was only last season whilst game were behind closed doors. IFollow is back to the previous method of who sells the pass keeps the money so this season if you buy a pass through City then City keep the £10 (minus VAT). Last season the company behind IFollow got nothing from pass sales, they got their money through a fee from the clubs and EFL with the EFL making their money back through adverts and that has continued this season

 

Dewhirst isn't a regular visitor to this site or others because frankly I am sick to death and bored with discussion of BCAFC on social media given the conspiracy theories, scapegoating and a lot of the crap that is written.

For the record I met SR in Munich at my own expense and initiative in November, 2018 because it was plainly evident that he needed to be told what was actually going on at VP. It was also apparent, as he confirmed to me, that he attaches little credibility to what was - or indeed is written - on social media. I'd go so far as to say that social media was counter productive and served only to help Edin's arguments.

I didn't know what to expect before I met SR but nonetheless found him to be an honourable, ethical guy who injected money into the club in December 2018 to pay the wages because he felt an obligation to avoid insolvency. Whether you like him or not he has put more money into BCAFC to keep it going than any other owner at Valley Parade - and that is over and above what he paid.

I have little doubt that he would like to be rid of the club but I am extremely sceptical that anyone would be prepared to invest clean money to meet his commitment and buy BCAFC. It is ultimately SR's prerogative whether or not to cut his losses and walk away but with respect, I would resent people telling me how to manage my investments or family's inheritance.

I was relieved that the club was not sold to the crypto gang in January. As to the credentials of the next offer, I wouldn't hold out the hope of attracting a blue chip buyer. Seriously, BCAFC is hardly an attractive investment proposition given that we don't own the ground, pay a massive rent and have been under-invested for decades. An aspiring money launderer might have an interest in buying BCAFC but does anyone think that a philanthropist will come out of the woodwork to help us? Certainly it hasn't been the case in the 50 years I have followed the club.

Like everyone else I am disappointed about DA and I haven't been impressed by his comments. In fact I am not convinced that he will deliver. Thereagain, I don't remember any complaints when DA was secured last year and when we beat Stevenage at VP back in August the general consensus was that we were good money for a promotion challenge.

I fail to see how SR can be blamed for the disappointment of DA. It is hardly as if he is doing a Rahic and pulling all the strings. Ditto I don't understand why Ryan Sparks should be scapegoated and believe he has done a lot behind the scenes to improve things at VP. Does anyone seriously think that someone is going to abandon a six figure salary and replace him at VP to be CEO and put up with the toxicity? Both SR and RS face a massive decision about DA and at the very least deserve support and sympathy for the position they are in.

Unfortunately I think we are at the stage where people have made their minds up and won't hear anything to the contrary, irrespective of logic or substance. It's not exactly a healthy state of affairs. For example I've read the comments about SR seemingly undermining the finances of the club as if he needs an income from BCAFC to fund his lifestyle. I looked at the club finances a couple of years ago and found no evidence of the smoking gun that people on this site are adamant about. SR is ultimately the guarantee of the club's balance sheet and I would trust him far more than I could have said about Bob Martin, Stafford Heginbotham or Geoffrey Richmond. And unlike Richmond he is risking his own money.

As for organised boycotts, it is futile and ditto the idea of a banner in the sky. Again, hardly the way to boost the credibility of City fans and probably even less likely to impress anyone wanting to put themselves in Rupp's position.

 

Yep I’ll join in for the fun….I promise I won’t have any beer whilst watching the game !

Good luck with the grand plan!

 

Great post JD, Rupp and Sparks have done a good job and everyone hoped that hiring Adams would work out, Unfortunately it looks like he will be the wrong person appointed in good faith, The toxicity that is generated towards the club and SR/RS is because of the toxicity from Adams that seems to have spread and like a cancer needs to be cut out for the club to rebuild

 

Well said.

 

Happy to agree John… on several portions of your reply.

Some of the forums contributions are born out of frustration, that I fully understand as I’m certainly disappointed how the season has panned out. However some other comments….meh!

 

Yes i agree about the frustration. What i think might be healthy is for there to be physical supporter meetings where comments can be made in person. My suspicion is that in the next decade social media will be looked upon in the same way as tobacco in terms of health and well-being.

 

Thank you for your insight John. Without breaching any confidentialities ( I believe this may be in the public domain anyway), can confirm that the German management company takes a circa £300k annual management fee from City.
(not doubting you for a second @Dennis just see this as an opportunity to finally put this one to bed)

 

How can boycotts be futile?

Are we pretending that Rupp will fund Bradford City literally no matter what, in a desperate attempt to recoup his initial, poorly conceived investment?

He made an error buying the club. He shouldn't have bought it. He isn't interested, and his business partner was a charlatan. That's behind us now, but let's not pretend protest is futile. Some fans do not like the way the club is run, do not see Stefan's vision, and do not believe we are on course for success.

It's really that simple.

Disenfranchised fans are a serious cause for concern, whether they're seen as part of an organised boycott, an incidental boycott, or just a dwindling fan base. It's up to Stefan to get these fans back on board and give this club a shot in the arm. They're his customers, and it's his business.

At the minute there is nothing for some fans to hold on to, and the more disenfranchised they become, the more likely action will be taken whether its 'futile' or not.