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BOYCOTT STARTS TOMORROW

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, Feb 7, 2022.

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  1. Bronco

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    What did Dave ?.
     
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    So here’s something which should send shivers down Ryan’s spine..........me!
    As someone who gladly admits to being a bit of a “happy clapper”, someone who actually thinks we have a deluded fan base in terms of how big we really are, The thought of a boycott just doesn’t float my boat. BUT.....on Saturday I watched the Kidderminster V West Ham game, went to put the City match on the radio but didn’t, After the Hammers game I put some racing on, checked my phone once or twice and when Harrogate scored I just shook my head. Tomorrow normally I’d have paid my tenner for an I follow pass, however having looked at
    The Premier matches available I’ll watch one of those instead.
    In my humble view it’s not a few hundred organising protests which will drive change, it’s when the happy clapping majority like me get to the point when we really can’t be arsed anymore and I’m kind of there now, Sparks be worried, apathy is setting in!
     
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    Are you saying "loyal" fans aren't hurting now ??
    Maybe the "loyal" fans are wanting to do something about it rather than sat clapping like a demented seal at anything thrown at us
    Something has to be done and NOW
    The Rahic fiasco went on far too long before action was taken
    The fan base won't stand a protracted repeat
     
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  4. Park bantam

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    It did
     
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    It's obvious that a large percentage of the support is unhappy, but it's a nebulous, undefined discontent without an overwhelmingly agreed reason as to why the club continually underacheives and what needs to happen to put it right.

    Without some organisation and agreement on what supporters believe should change and how to change it. Then I'm afraid it'll rapidly fizzle out and without acheiving anything of note.
     
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    Dave, many elements were behind his demise. Fans were angry/fecked off with Rahic. Anti Rahic chants. Fans not going to games. You was there, as was many of us. The flyover was cancelled due to weather conditions. Media attention was in the Mail and other rags.

    Was it Dewhirst that went to Germany. It wasn't dialogue alone that got Rahic out, it was a collective.

    Look, I've been personally boycotting spending at VP since October. That's my choice. I don't want to spend further on Bradford City till Rupp is gone but I don't know how I will react in the summer when St's are about. You'll find out how resilient I am then.

    That's my boycott status.
     
  7. JonButterfield

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    Yeah, there's no consensus on whether it's purely Adams, purely Rupp, purely Sparks, or a combination of the three.

    To me it's pretty bloody obvious it's all three, but that is NOT a consensus, and there are plenty of people exclusively blaming Adams.

    We're not going to get a coherent campaign until people start accepting that Rupp is the problem, and that appointing Sparks is a problem, and that appointed Adams is a problem, and that appointing ten managers since Rupp came in is the exact same turnover that was so disastrous in Simon Parker's eyes when Rahic got the can.

    We need people who think Rupp isn't a problem to wise up, frankly, because he is the SOURCE of our woes.
     
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    Excellent post !!
    After supporting over 50 years have seen only 4 games this season 3 were away games mainly for the away day experience and meeting up with friends (plastic/disloyal I know) am told my seat at VP is still there tho
    You aren't alone not being arsed following Derek and his ego it's a toil of a pleasure
     
  9. JonButterfield

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    I didn't listen to the Harrogate game.

    I wasn't doing anything in particular to avoid it, and I realised it was an early kick off, I just didn't really care.

    Skipping the game, seeing the result, then hearing that we were 'unlucky' was more amusing than maddening, to be honest.
     
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    Apologies in advance as I know this example is way over the top and it’s still only football. But Park reminds me of someone like Lord Halifax before WWII. Thinking I can’t do anything just beg and plead with the Germans. It doesn’t matter what it is in life people in numbers can always make a difference, if you stand by and do nothing you can be culpable yourself. People power.

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    Thing is, I definitely I don't have anything against Park. He's a City fan. He frustrates me but I'm sure, some of the things I say, frustrate him.

    But inaction is not the answer.

    I've outlined already my take on things. Was due to go to Stevenage and Forest Green but now, no. Weirdly, I'm taking in my first ever BPA fame on Wednesday vs York (bargain at fiver a ticket). I've walked away from City before... I'm close again.
     
  12. Bronco

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    You're correct there was plenty going off, unfortunatly Rupp was sold the line of its because we're German they are not happy and results are poor a perfect example when Rahic himself said at a forum he mentioned the video that had Hitler in
    , i'tsbeen done many times and this was how he sold Rupp the pup, I'm not defending it or the fact his kids were getting abuse at school but unfortunatly for us Rupp bought all Rahic told him and it was John Dewhirst and another fellow fan who got a meeting witb Rupp with evidence of the goings on at Valley Parade.
    Even after taking us to Wembley Rahic did not like the fact he got little credit, and was far from happy that McCall was held in such high estem by Bradford City fans, as we found out Rahic wanted Stuart out that closed season and Rupp was 100% behind him, he believed everything Rahic told him.
     
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    In Rupp’s defence he would take everything Rahic said to him as correct as Edin ‘knew football & we had to take him seriously’. Same goes for what the issue is now. Julian Rhodes told Rupp that Bradford City doesn’t need investment and can be run on a break even basis every season. Same Julian Rhodes that gave McCall the extended contract & promoted Ryan Sparks before he finally left the building.
     
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    What has Sparks done wrong?

    He doesn’t own the club but he’s managing it for the owner. He doesn’t get involved in first team affairs, he leaves that to the manager. Rightly so.

    He’s brought in Adams who is a proven manager and no one complained at the time.

    It’s looking like it’s not working with Adams for whatever reason, but to me Sparks is getting a raw deal from many people here.

    There’s a lot of people to point fingers at in the last 4 years but Sparks isn’t one of them. The bloke’s doing his best. He wants the best for this club, it’s not for the want of trying.
     
  15. Park bantam

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    Of course and whilst I would prefer a home grown owner the state the club is in this season is down to Adams top 7 budget and should be doing better. If people want change dialogue is better than stupid stunts
     
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    Not at all Dave, we've been told Rupp is a decent guy and will try to put Rahics wrongs right if that makes sence.
    Unfortunatly he may be a decent guy but he wants as little as possible involvement with the club being quite happy to give Ryan his brief going forward and leaving him to make the calls.
    If he doesn't want to be involved would he react possitivley to any sort of protest, he's made it pretty clear he wants the club running with self sustainability rather than him personally financing the club.
    If the quotes of what he thinks the club's worth are correct he's delusional and he won't get a buyer at that price, would he allow us to fall into none league
    we would not be a viable business going forward the rent alone would be a massive drain.
    So frustrating to be a fan and know what would would be the right way get him to get more involved or sell up, posters say the fly bye would not have made any difference but wasn't it ironic the day of the fly bye someone at the club got in touch with Jon and asked for it to be cancelled I doubt very much that was Ryan so did Rupp get a wiff of the fly bye and think this doesn't put us in a good light asking Julian to make the call ?.
     
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    Turnbull was doing his best for the club, and it wasn't for want of trying.

    Trying is the bare minimum. Results are all that matter. It's a results-based business, and everyone connected with a football club realises that.

    What has Sparks done wrong?

    Failed with every appointment.
    Failed with every contract extension.
    Promised success that he has been unable to deliver.
    Congratulated himself prematurely on the successful appointment of Adams.
    Given Adams a three year contract, thus effectively locking us in.
    Compromised his own vision by appointing a manager with no interest in youth development, completely at odds with his ethos (or supposed ethos).
    Allowed Adams to sack the club scout and bring in three of his own, with no obvious improvement or success.
    Allowed Adams to dictate the departure of the club captain without replacing him.
    Failed to halt the merry go round of managers, staff and players.

    In other words, not only has he got every major footballing decision wrong, he's allowed one of those bad decisions to ride roughshod over this club and ensure that, once he leaves, we are back to LITERAL square one with nothing to show for it except the approach of another inevitable squad dismantling/rebuilding effort that likely won't work.

    Again.
     
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    Guess your not a big fan of either Mr Sparks or Mr Adams
     
  19. Park bantam

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    We were heading for the trap door when he took the reins and we ended the season comfortably how was that a failure
     
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    Since this thread is about a boycott, I am a season ticket holder but will not be renewing until Rupp leaves now unless by some miracle he can start to show a bit of interest in his company and do something he’s failed to do since arriving improve us not send us backward. Life’s to short to deal with the last 4 years of crap he has over seen. When we spent 6 years down here last time it was on the back of 2 admins, not having a club legend in Parky as manager who had led us in the previous 4 years to Wembley twice(including a major final), promotion, FA Cup quarter final and season upon season improvement for 5 seasons. All he had to do with his mate is walk in see which areas needed some TLC, maybe invest in a few talents which if went well could have been sold on for a profit and happy days. Instead he let his mate run riot, the club legend was gone within a few days of meeting them, he’s gone through 3 CEOs, 10 managers, god knows how many garbage players and takes out over $350,000 a year for his troubles without so much as attending a game. We had crap times worth Lawn and Rhodes, but they were always there with Baldwin, giving anything they could to try turn us around after financial mismanagement. That’s why I won’t back Rupp and that’s why I’ll support any movement to get him out ASAP.
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