Transfer Rumour Thread...

That's interesting because it was announced by the club and even Simon Parker that he had been offered one.

So someone isnt being totally honest here.

 

I can totally understand people being concerned about who we will sign as his replacement, but some of the reaction from fans tonight has been appalling.

The club could have acted sooner to offer him a new deal, like they did with those you mention but they haven't and haven't actually done anything here that other clubs don't do.

 

You have no grasp of how contract negotiation works in football. The retained list just shows who’s being released and who isn’t, it doesn’t literally mean they’ve sent his agent a contract offer. Generally the negotiations don’t even start until the players back from holiday.

 

You are right, I don't know about contracts in football and don't claim to be an expert.

So you are telling me the club make a list, submit it to the football league (may 17th is when they announced they offered players deals, they probably informed the league prior to this), wait 30 odd days and do absolutely naff all no contract offer or discussions despite confirming deals have been offered to a number of players and then wait until the end of June when the player comes back from his jollies before doing anything?

Right.

 

Never said that, I’m talking about Doyle’s case in particular. He was with ROI squad until early June and so by now will have only had 2 weeks holiday. Compare this to the 3 or 4 weeks from the last game of the season the average player gets, why would he want to negotiate a contract when he’s focusing on representing his country and spending time with his family. In regards to your end of June comment I encourage to check when McMahon and Shattelmaiers contrac renewals were finalised last summer; hint- it was July. Do you really think Rahic spent 2 months negotiating with them? Neither were on international duty may I add. Can you explain what reason Mrs Doyle would have to lie?

 

If that is true then the club will be in bother with the league via the PFA for breach of rules. By a fixed date they either either have to make an offer or inform the players that their contract will not be extended.

 

THat is exactly what the retained list is. The offer has to be made by a fixed date set by the league. They then have a month to accept or decline the offer, again laid down by the league.

None of that is negotiable otherwise the PFA would get involved and the club fined by the league.

 

A shame as Doyle was very likeable, should we sign Ripley or a Freddie Woodman type on loan then I think he will be quickly forgotten.

 

You are aware that players employ agents that do the negotiating with the club? The player themself will not actually be sat there negotiating with the club about their deal.

In regards last year and your example of McMahon, you are aware that during that time he was negotiating with various other clubs as well? The main one being Blackburn that he thought he had got a deal with. He only came back as his other options fell through and we hadn’t replaced him.

 

If as some people are saying he never received an offer then he needs to be looking at changing his agent as he has been seriously let down by his representation.

 

So he did receive an offer but on less wages, obviously the club refused to renegotiate. True that this happens up and down the country every summer but it doesn't show them in a good light yet again. As PR goes, this summer has been a disaster. If the master plan works of course, It won't matter, but there's very little goodwill left from the fans which means if it goes wrong, it will go very wrong . They've heaped the pressure on themselves.

 

I’d be surprised if a Ripley or especially a Woodman ran out at Shrewsbury on the 4th August. Every player that’s come in this summer has been a surprise and a relative unknown to us. I’d imagine the new keeper will be a newly released younger player and not a loan. Fits the pattern of the signings so far.

 

You mean like Wright and O'Connor?

 

Can you provide a quote or something to substantiate this?

Can't believe he didn't receive an offer until 10 /15 days before the end of his contract.

 

Yer, it's becoming clear they're just really bad at PR and controlling the narrative. They either don't see the value in it and are not spending time on it/not investing time/money in it or the person/people they're employing are very poor and don't know what they're doing.

Its weird because the updates on the pitch were frequent and very interesting so that shows capability but maybe that was a part of the contract with the company? What they should be doing is realising how well they were received and try and replicate it for other areas e.g. Could have been done for bringing the shop in house, general topic of ground improvements, as well as the team.

 

Agree with this, its not the fact that players and staff are leaving, this happens all the time. Its as you have said, its how we seem to deal with it. Anyway, he's gone now. I'm presuming our management team will have a keeper lined up.

 

No worries...Edins found a cheaper solution......................

 

The chairman's come in for some nasty criticism yet again over Doyle but it wasn't so long ago Parkinson took J Mac to Ireland for pre season training then told him there wasn't a contract offer for him. I can't remember him coming in for such nasty criticism. Doyle was average at best and fans were shouting for him to be dropped at the start of last season and if we had have had a decent back up he probably wouldn't have got back in.

 

Anyone think J Mac might be who they have lined up or has he gone elsewhere?