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Ryan Sparks

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Fordy117, Dec 5, 2020.

  1. JonButterfield

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    Imagine if we had got to the Championship this season with even a relatively small wage bill.

    Rupp would be in tears.
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    Apparently we might as well not bother from what I've read, just leave it as is.
     
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  3. JonButterfield

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    It's just a perverse argument.

    Why are you, the paying customer, asking to pay more? Without getting an agreement from the club on how any extra revenue might be spent, it's just a meaningless discussion.

    Are you gonna petition the club to raise prices in a stand, or across the stadium? What are you going to ask for in return? Are you looking at hot water, more new seats, an increased transfer budget?

    For all you know with the absolute lack of guarantees that we've got, you're petitioning Rupp to raise the prices so his pockets have a slightly thicker polymer lining. It just makes zero sense to be making this argument as someone who isn't involved in the financial mechanisms of the club.
     
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  4. Rogered Tart

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    Let's make the tickets £100 then as its clear money makes no difference to you. I am honestly perplexed as to why a business would not try and raise revenue income? By reverse logic then every club would drop their ticket prices and half the price of merchandise and food. To even think of raising them now would be sheer lunacy, in the future its a given.
     
  5. JonButterfield

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    Doesn't really address what I'm saying about ticket prices not really being a concern for me and you though.

    Without having any insight or say into how the money gets spent, there is no argument to be made to increase them.

    It's like asking for higher taxes without campaigning for a specific reason for an increase in spending.

    Makes no sense
     
  6. Fordy117

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    Well £250 is affordable for all.

    This what is affordable to Bradfordians is nonsense. Many on here have money, many Bradfordians have money.

    Cheap season tickets are pointless and we haven’t done anything with the scheme. It’s failed barring setting out the we give you cheap tickets but can’t afford to improve the club.

    Off the pitch this club vastly needs to improve. Don’t be fooled by a man that comes on here,
     
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  7. Rogered Tart

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    We're going round in circles, i'll bow out to save me boring evryone.
     
  8. Mike Hunt

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    The opportunity is there for the creative marketing to keep prices affordable but to maximise income.
    If there is a ten month instalment plan, £20 a month isn’t that different to £15.
    Discounts for unemployed, elderly, U16s, seats in the Bradford End or where you get wet at the front.
    Premium tickets with suite access, or a ‘free’ signed shirt, meet some of the players before the game, a discounted iFollow pass and so on. All this stuff is easy is you have someone with the time and the imagination to think of it. Other sports manage it. You look at what earned the money for a transatlantic flight, it wasn’t the 350 plebs paying £250 in economy, it was the fifty business travellers paying £3000 a ticket on expenses in business.
    The Club membership Edin wanted would have been a good idea properly implemented so long as it has tangible benefits.
     
  9. SimonW

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    It's absolutely not the top clubs who are to blame. As I mentioned multiple times when you lot were attacking the top clubs for Project Big Picture the problem is that Cartel of yoyo club. With the way PL voting rules go it needs 16 clubs to agree to pass anything so anything to improve the league or improve English football in general (including helping the national team) gets voted down because it almost certainly has a negative impact on more than 4 clubs who either have a history of bouncing between the leagues or potentially risk doing so. The only way to get some changes through is to give them more in parachute payments. A few times the top half of the league have been willing to actually give more to the EFL in general as part of changes to the setup but its the yoyo club cartel who blocks it and demand that money does into parachute payments thus skewing things further. People need to stop making out the top clubs are the lower leagues enemy, they get no benefit making your life harder, its this cartel who are willing to force through damaging both the PL and English football in general to get tens of millions a year if they get relegated making returning back to the PL before these payments end highly likely
     
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    With 6 million from various sources in the championship as against about 700k being in this league,I suspect Rupp would be the opposite to being in tears.
     
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    Problem with that is your costs go up exponentially as you rise up the leagues. Just as getting into the premiership may seem like the golden egg scenario, the costs of just turning up for a season are horrendous.
     
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    Very true, but it then comes down to what they spend it on. Bradford City will not be top of the list to a guy who earns £20k, has a couple of kids, has a mortgage or a rent that increases every year. BC want him to come and bring his kids. Obviously, 8000 x 250 is more than 12000 x 150 but which of those 2 figures is likely to spend more at the ground, on merchandise and which one will look more attractive to would be sponsors. It's Ryan's job to work that out and work it out, he will.
     
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  13. Bronco

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    Were league two mate without cheap tickets we would be attracting 8/10,000 I think seat pricing could be brought in but not at the present moment in time.
     
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    No benefit really. Most seats have tge same view and this is league two not big time Charlie football
     
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    Agree, the thought that Bradford is any poorer than most northern industrial towns is nonsense
     
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    If they don't want to spend their money on Bradford City then tough but fans will.

    Having 14k in the ground has made no difference to us in where we are on or off the pitch. We need to start leveling up now. Prices need to go up!
     
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    Seriously, you are talking utter nonsense!

    We all understand that you are scared of change but please get used to prices of most things you spend your money on going up within the next 12 months.

    Bradford City time to increase prices is certainly next season. It would be foolish for the club not start increasing their prices from next season.
     
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    Yawn
     
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    Which would still leave you in the top3 of attendance and with a pretty safe margin. You absolutely could charge more than you have been. Maybe the additional income from people attending makes it worthwhile to charge less to get more in but considering what some others are charging in league 2 its a fair difference to make up from profits from the matchday items
     
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    Even with the same unrestricted view there are still going to be places that are more desirable than others. For example, while at non-league where you can change your position during the match behind the goals are often most in demand at seated stadiums where you have to stay where you are along the sides, especially close to the half-way line are often more desirable as you have a decent view of both ends all match where as for half the match behind the goals your teams chances are as far away as possible from you
     
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