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McCall IN/OUT (with new Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rcbantam, Sep 15, 2020.

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McCall - Should he stay or should he go now?

Poll closed Dec 13, 2020.
  1. Stay

    50 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Go

    128 vote(s)
    64.0%
  3. Uncertain

    22 vote(s)
    11.0%
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  1. Biker

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    Interesting, its a very big chunk of cash 400k or thereabouts for a L2 club to find.
     
  2. Mike Hunt

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    Huge amount, the Bescot is a pretty basic stadium too. I think I read Exeter are paying under £100k.
     
  3. Botswana Bantam

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    I didn't realise we had Graham Poll on the coaching staff.

    If he leaves with Stuart will Kenny be staying to take on the reins or will he be leaving as well?
     
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  4. Storck

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    think most clubs will either be paying rent or mortgages in their grounds
     
  5. Tingleyb

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    I agree with Mike. No bailout money spent on professional football in the UK. My (and future tax paid by my grandchildren) will be bad enough without bailing out millionaire owners. Not in my name.
     
  6. donhutchinsaffro

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    What is the point in binning him? He is there until the end of this mad season and then we will see
     
  7. PlatinumChaosX

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    I voted no, pointless changing managers at the moment. We’re in for a potential struggle no matter who is in the hot seat. Better that the club work with Stuart and give him the backing he needs.

    We need consistency, even if we aren’t pushing promotion this season.

    I would only look at sacking McCall if we’re facing relegation. I’m confident that won’t happen, but I do fully expect a mid table finish this season. Anything above that and I’ll see that as a positive, would be fantastic if we make the playoffs... maybe we’ll win the league though ? Still early days yet. :brig:

    COME ON CITY!!! :brig::brig::brig::brig::brig::brig::brig::brig:
     
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  8. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    Although I would accept, begrudgingly, that Teflon needs the season It does concern me that the poster believes that as long as we don’t get relegated then a good job has been done. It worries me, and I have expressed this many times, that he and many others are willing to accept a level of mediocrity because Teflon is in charge that were it any other manager the streets would be ablaze demanding action.

    For me it is a worrying trait.
     
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  9. JimmyBantam

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    The poll makes for interesting reading. If I were an outsider snooping in on the Bradford City forum I could be forgiven for thinking the Bradford fans were unhappy with McCall and wanted him out. Yet based on a simple glance at the poll, this perception couldn't be further from the truth.

    I believe we have general consensus there is still much for us to improve on and I have to agree, simply surviving is not an acceptable benchmark for us this season. I've seen enough to suggest we can genuinely hope for better than that. But we are probably a couple of key players short to see us over the line as things stand.
     
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  10. trevor

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    If we could get the Cowley Brothers in then sack him, :)
     
  11. Fordy117

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    What's the point in saying come on City!! You might as well go to bed and not wake up until next season.

    So we have gone from getting relegated with the then the hope of automatic promotion then Bowyer goes it's lets go for the play offs. However, no you are telling us midtable is acceptable and you would only get rid of McCall if we are in a relegation fight. Are you taking the fecking piss?

    Can you see you pattern of unambitious mindset?

    Look, I don't think the squad is great but not finishing in the play offs or above is unacceptable for a manager that clearly brought in Guthrie, Novak and all the other signings since Jan. A manager that has had plenty of time to figure out what he wants and how to improve the squad.

    Bradford City on and off the pitch are in great danger of just being a nothing club. If McCall doesn't get results then he has to go. Managers get judged on results no matter how poor people think the squad is.
     
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  12. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    Fordy,

    Normally that is the case but Teflon does not have to deliver to the same measurement.
     
  13. Kop View

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    Some people have short memories. How many managers have we had over recent years, cheered then demanded the sack and look where we are.
     
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    @Fordy117@Fordy117 @Feats Don't Fail Me Now@Feats Don't Fail Me Now

    I think you both need to stop moaning at people and being so negative. You both seem to get really irate over this stuff ahaha.

    Yeah Fordy I may say ‘Come on city’ a lot, that’s because I’m having fun buddy, can’t say the same for you and your negative bubble.

    @Feats Don't Fail Me Now@Feats Don't Fail Me Now Avoiding relegation is good, it’s being in a relegation battle that is bad.

    I really think you both need to lighten up, I have plenty of fun watching the club, even during the down periods when we struggle, the club need that positive vibe from its fan base. I just don’t think sacking managers is a long term solution, Stuart McCall is City through and through, I can’t same the same for both of you when you’re so fast to throw sh** at anyone with an opinion. :)

    COME ON CIIITTYYY!!!!!! :brig::brig::brig::brig::p:p:p:p:p:p:p;)
     
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  15. Bigrod

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    The trouble with changing the manager, is not actually changing the manager, but rather their successor being left with all the players who were around, who contributed to the demise of the last manager!

    I guess a number of us have views about the current players and their ‘fit’ in the team and what they can actually contribute. Do they have the personal attributes that will add to the performance in a constructive manner.

    The trouble is that unless players commit some act of gross misconduct, then despite getting rid of the manager they will still be at the club!

    Changing managers often, when they have different styles, tactics, and personalities, leads to constant turmoil and instability.

    Most of us like consistency and some form of routine. I would guess players are very similar. Upheaval unsettles people, Bradford City has had massive upheavals since the Wembley 2017 final!
     
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  16. Fordy117

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    This is why a lot of clubs now in 2020 have Sporting Directors or recruitment is down to a team not a manager in on an Ipad.

    Another reason why Rhodes needs to go - Out dated.
     
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    As McCall can be seen as a city fan through and through, I’d have thought he’d been watching us from afar during his period away from the club. We’d have all pretty much said, that the squad lacked pace, a dominant midfielder and centre halve.

    Putting ourselves in McCalls shoes, wouldn’t that have been the first thing you’d address if you were given the job ?

    If as @Fordy117@Fordy117 has said, that Guthrie was his signing why not plug one of those holes first and why after 8 months or so in the job, with a full summer transfer window are the holes still there?

    Does Stuart have that ruthless streak that all good managers have, or does he want to be everyones best friend? If, as I suspect he’s the latter, this could well be his downfall again.
     
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  18. Idlebantam

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    I voted no. This is a treading water season for me. We wont go down or be involved in a relegation battle, nor do I think will we be troubling the play offs.

    I believe McCall is out of contract next summer, along with quite a lot of the players.

    I think a new CEO will come in and assess everything on and off the pitch, and unless McCall has managed to get us promoted, will install a new manager in the summer.

    I just do not see the point in sacking him this season, unless we do hover dangerously near the drop zone
     
  19. Bantamsteve

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    Seems like the bigger majority are in favour of keeping Stuart at least till the end of the season or a new CEO is appointed he is not beyond criticism by any stretch but if we are to believe Mr Rhodes rare press release the aim this year is to not loose money and not get relegated so basically failure to get promotion but stay in L2 is success The negative mindset that filters down from the top is killing any ambition We are "lucky"!!! to have a chairman reportedly worth millions (sadly he sees us as nothing more than a blot on his portfolio) he could have invested a slight part of his fortune given us a chance in a weak league and bolstered his investment whether he is listening too much to Mr Rhodes I fear is a possibility
    In my opinion Stuart should be given time to prove his managerial credentials under the new CEO then be judged after all the bar is set pretty low for him this season and to have not being relegated and not to spend money as your "goal" he must be pretty optimistic of achieving his target
    Sad really we are negative backward thinking and prepared to settle for second best pretty much sums up the majority of the 50 years I have been a fan
     
  20. Biker

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    Seems he can do and say what he wants and still get backed to the hilt, the mini tantrums are a disgrace, ifollow sales well down on estimates, no surprise supporters don’t thrive on mid table mediocrity at best and boring football, this static club would sleep walk its way into oblivion.

    I would not vote yes to sacking him at this stage but I’m not sure he deserves the loyalty with his lazy recruitment, poor performances, and average results.
     
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