They’ve got to Go!!!!

Did you form a protest group when Lawn & Rhodes took us to the brink of non-league?

 

Good a thread about the owners, I was missing my hourly fix.

 

Get out and enjoy the sun. It’s going to be a lovely day.

 

Sorry Jimmy, not with you on this one.

How do you know they are not going to act on rectifying past mistakes?

The fact that they pursued Grayson tells me otherwise. They have tried to persuade an old style English manager, who does it his own way, to stay for a further couple of years, thinking he represented our best chance of getting out of this league at the right end of the table. The fact he chose not to stay, doesnt mean that they are going to revert to type and look for a 'yes' man with a meagre budget.

I'm prepared to sit back, let them appoint a new manager, and see how things develop over the close season. I'm going to enjoy the summer in the meantime, watching the World Cup and Cricket, and come back and start again with the pre-season friendlies.

So no protests from me

 

Sanity

 

I don’t think you can deduce anything from Grayson leaving seriously. Have a listen to his exit interview, and then look at the papers this morning, yesterday he was our perspective manager, now Scunthorpe and Barnsley are fighting over him. Well my view is they are welcome to him. The owners are making mistake after mistake, and realising you make one big mistakes and no amount of scrambling around can put that right. So I personally I am not there yet, like @Dennis is implying before that happens we need to know we are past the point of no return and we have better investors lined up.

 

I'm far from happy with our incumbents, and I'm cutting them some slack (having calmed down about the loss of Grayson) rather than defending them, but cancer is a strong word. Both are successful business men not idiots who will not have done their homework, but it would appear they have had the wool pulled over their eyes and inherited a turkey in terms of infrastructure. Now I'm not a religious man at all, but I do recall there is a story in the old testament about houses being built on sand.

We've been spoilt over the last six years with "superficial" success, when in truth all we've actually achieved is promotion back to the division in which we've spent the most time during the last 30 years. The two cup runs were great for a day out, raising the clubs profile, and a bit of income (none of which was ever invested properly in the club) but are they a true measure of success ?? I'd say in reality only promotion is a true measure.

Grayson has walked either because he seen things that make him think that the club is no where near Championship ready or because his agent has told him he can get more dosh in his pocket at Barnsley, Scunthorpe, Ipswich or whatever club he turns up at in two weeks time, and that's not to do with Rahic and Rupp. I'm worried about our short term future, but to some extent we do need to cut them some slack, especially as they've tried to show intent by spending money on fees.

Don't forget we had a Chairman (albeit a successful one for part of the time) who had exactly the opposite view and thought he'd never have to pay a transfer fee again but paid silly money on wages. That ended really well didn't it !!

 

What a bizarre post. Not sure it warranted it's own thread.

 

Thanks for that clarity

 

The model can work and to an extent there are signs its working (Robinson,Patrick,Gibson,Peters,Hawkes,Staunton)but it takes time and resources to fully implement.
Imo the mistakes were made with 1st team recruitment in that we didnt sign strong characters to help the younger players.
They admitted mistakes where made and said sorry.
Its not time for a revolution just yet and like the previous poster said we have no better investor lined up.

 

@Jimmylivesnextdoor I would ask that you think very carefully before embarking on a venture to get rid of our owners. We all share your frustrations and anger, but our club is far more important than that. We need a period of stability, let us hope we can have that. Sometimes we all need to stand stil and think of nothing rather than acting or saying anything, and this advice applies to Edin.

 

I'm not to sure if these guys said they wanted out, there wouldn't be interested parties prepared to talk.

 

I think our owners should stay. The summer before their arrival look who nearly bought us. That, I would really not have liked. They are a much better option than Palladine etc. Finally they are dealing with the pitch, so progress is being made.

 

I think it is a massive over reaction. What lies have the owners told us? What comments have they made that are proven as blatant lies? Yes, some of their promises have not come to fruition but you and others need to stop being hysterical over this.

The way I see it - two Germans still learning their trade in English football. Naive mistakes have been made and things have not worked out this season but it is not like we were fighting relegation - we finished 11th about 3 wins off the play offs.

Do not forget them bringing in a club legend like McCall. Do not forget all their hard work last season that saw them build a squad from about 8 contracted players into Play Off finalists. Do not forget they brought in Charlie Wyke who will be the first million pound player in over a decade (bar Wells). Do not forget their philosophy has brought in another gem like Tyrell Robinson.

When they start fleecing the fans with high ticket prices and selling our assets to pocket the profits then let's talk about these ridiculous protest groups.