Next home game, protest

There won’t be any protests for the short term at least, the new manager syndrome will ensue that the fans will get behind him. But Rahic is on borrowed time, he’s played his joker early. If this appointment fails he has nothin to fall back on, the very few fans who still side with him will have no options left. His whole dealing of the Collins saga has made him a laughing stock, this is his last roll of the dice.

 

But you can spin that either way. It's just a feasible that Rahic simply was underwhelmed by the candidates and wouldn't succeed to their demands as he thought they weren't worth it

The Rahic knockers continue to crease me up!! You'd think we had the devil in charge, rather than someone who is actually no more ruthless than the Scunny chairman and countless others

And if a manager is so flawed that they can't work with a Chairman that, yes likes to be involved, then it says a lot about why they are out of work

 

Can you name me all these candidates? Heckingbottom took a break from the game and still hasn't come back - so hardly Rahic's fault. Grayson clearly thought we should have rolled the red carpet out for him, giving him £10m and gold car - oh where is he know by the way?

The squad needed extensive rebuilding back in June and all the knockers on here were convinced we were going to get 12 under-21's from the bottom of L2. Even most of them have had to eat humble pie at the quality (for a L1 play-off push) we brought in. That makes us far more attractive. Hence Hopkin now can't wait to work with such a squad. Simple

I don't get why fans don't understand it's cold hearted business negotiation. Personalities have little to do with it. If they do, then that's a flaw in who ever has the issue. A candidate comes and may actually get on with Edin, but worries about what players he can buy or rather what quality will be brought in. But that's the same at lots of clubs

 

Yes. If you look at us now to three months ago - the squad is far better

I rarely lose patience with managers after six matches (I was known for believing in PP back in the dark days of January 2012) but if a manager can't get this squad to win more games than it loses they have a serious flaw. Christ! O'Conner had more of an idea what the issues were. And as for making Wright the captain!!!!!!!

 

Hopkin didn't take in the summer because the squad needed a major rebuild, 90% of which has now been done plus he now comes into a club on it's knees. So he has a good squad of players grossly underachieving and a Chairman who, no mater what his personality, is now proven spend money when needed - hence it's now a no-brainer

Happens in businesses everywhere. In fact I've just done the same myself last month - a candidate who turned us down in December has now joined us a he can see that we're know a more attractive proposition

 

Edin Rahic’s Bradford Army!

 

He joined Livingstone when they were in crisis and rebuilt both the squad and the club from top to bottom. He most definitely did not decide against coming here because our squad needed rebuilding.

 

There won't be a protest now for the forseeable - and rightly so - lets see how it works out with Hopkin, but lets not pretend there was never an issue and we the team were simply just not playing very well.

there was a big problem, there was a clear reason why Grayson decided to leave and had no other job lined up. There's a reason James Mason left, despite being in his dream job. there's a reason it took us seven weeks in the summer and nobody wanted the job - there's a reason the players stopped playing in January onwards, and there's a reason why John Hendrie wants nothing to do with the club anymore - there's a reason Colin Doyle was as surprised as anyone to find the new deal he'd been promised never materialised, there's a reason Matt Killgallon is no longer a Bradford City player - and it's not because him or Doyle weren't good enough anymore, and there's a reason Sky TV were forced to pull rank and insist their choice of pundit would indeed cover a game at VP last season.

that reason is, you don't need me to tell you, Edin Rahic.

but, Hopkin is no nonsense, and i can't imagine he's been working under a 'head coach' set up at Livingston - maybe, just maybe, we are seeing change, and dare i say it, humility from Rahic?
I'm optimistic about the appointment, on the face of it, it looks as if something has changed since the summer - lets hope Hopkin has had assurances about things are going to be run around the club now - we can only wait and see.

 

This is incorrect as Rahic himself told us he was happy with the standard of candidates. so that's that rumour put to bed.

Managers turn downing jobs when the conditions set out are unreasonable/ unsatisfactory. It is completely fair and normal to turn down a job under those circumstances. Why would anyone in their right mind take a job which isn't right for them, inevitably fail and harm their reputation as a result? It ludicrous to expect them to do so.

 

As of this point in time I haven't seen any 'evidence' just lots and lots of people on here trotting out the same theories. We haven't had a single applicant come out and make an on the record statement that they even applied for the job never mind why they turned it down....if they did. Other than Grayson and he decided he was too big for us or more likely the job was too big for him. Oh and of course there is the ... my mate has a mate and his milkman had a beer in a pub in Doncaster where he got talking to a guy who knows someone on the board of Hereford Town who says that he heard on a recent business meeting in Carlisle that [Insert name] turned down the Bradford City job as he didn't like Edin Rahic.

Edin gave an internal resource a go... it hasn't worked out so he has gone back to the tried and tested. Maybe (there's that word again) he liked Hopkins back in the summer but having just left Livingstone Hopkins didn't want to jump right back in....but we stayed in touch.

Happens all the time in business.

We now have what most on here have been wanting, a seasoned manager, the club have invested heavily in playing staff and ground improvements. We are overall in a better position (maybe not league position wise but..) structurally and financially than we have been for a long time

In my opinion the board have been both decisive and pragmatic.

They didn't just appoint any old seasoned pro in the summer because the crowd were baying for one. they made that mistake in their first appointment and recognised it. They didn't see anyone they liked so they promoted internally but at the same time (and this is evidenced by how quickly they were able to roll out Mr Hopkin) they kept their options and communications channels open to other parties.

They saw the current set up wasn't working, apparently some time ago, and made their move. They didn't shout and stamp their feet. They got on with it quietly in the background, identified their man and moved quickly.

Like everything else in the summer they played this very close to their chest. Good on them and they caught the 'haters' on the back foot.

I have to admire Edin. Whenever the whingers and moaners on here get themselves into a fully lathered up hate frenzy he completely out manoeuvres them and leaves them grasping at straws and in his dust trail! And all it does is make them hate him even more! "Yea, well, he might have done that but.....what about this, what about that, he still hasn't sorted out the webpage and I didn't get my Parader badge with my season ticket. EDIN OUT!"

Love it!

Although I feel for Michael Collins and his team. It is a business. He will have known that.

Edin is there to make the hard decisions and it is evident he has no problem making and delivering them. Exactly what we need if we are to REALLY progress.

EDIN IN!

Norman

 

A load of old tripe. Can’t even be bothered to answer that in way. You spin it anyway you like Norm.

 

That is one hell of a conspiracy theory. At your own business did you employ someone in the meantime in that role rhat was completely unsuitable and didn’t even apply for the position then hang him out to dry and sack him after 77 days when your business started to go tits up quickly. Did you hold your hands up and admit responsibilty for the almightyl *@?$ uo because Rahic hasn’t. I’m nit going to give him credit for this, his decision has potentially put a young coach back years in career if we go by your analogy. We need to get behind the team but Rahic needs to start showing me some leadership qualities, something badly lacking at this club at this very moment.

 

blimey. that's a minute or so of my life I want back.
I haven't read quite so much nonsense in many a year.

 

There is only one person whi could have wrote this and that is Edins mum. Or a stalker. If this isn’t Edins mum then you remind me of the episode of Alan Partridge and his number one fan.

 

I'm not giving credit to Rahic at all. I'm merely saying that it's not a given that everyone turned him down and he turned no-one down

What do you want Rahic to do? Apologise every time he makes a managerial mistake - what like Daniel Levy used to do before he at last got it right with Poch?

What "analogy"? I don't get the 'conspiracy theory bit'. What are you rattling on about? Collins took the risk, hes's a big boy and it's a big world out there - but now Rahic has put this poor 'young coach' back years? Really? Do you think the same of the Scunny Chairman, who got rid of his manager even quicker?. Edin gave him a chance and it didn't work out. But now he's a wrecker of young coaches careers? Is he responsible for Grayson not getting a job as well? How about the Euro negotiations - I'm sure I've seen him at the meetings, no wonder it's developed into such a Brian Rix farce

Sorry Roger, but you and all the other teeth grinders need to understand that Rahic is one of many Chairman who often get appointments wrong, but occasionally get one right and then get to dine out on that. It's just how the world is - expecting 'truth and reconciliation' is simply naive. These are businessmen who often make wrong decisions, take it on the chin and then try and make the next one a better one and move on.

I suggest that you and the other tiresome knockers do the same. We've eventually got the best candidate (IMO) let's see what he can do with this good set of players, which seems to have been forgotten that Rahic sanctioned (obviously it doesn't fit, the "he's rubbish 100% of the time" narrative"



Oh! And no I continued under staffed, but kept crucially remained friendly with the candidate. Maybe that's what Edin did? Maybe he's a more shrewd operator who's learning about our football league ways every minute. Maybe like Vincent Tan he's where he is for a reason and can get things horribly wrong but learn from it

 

I have. It's usually another theory about why Rahic is so useless. Nice to get a sensible thought out response but or course the hostile haters get their claws out anyway

 

What I want to know is whether we can get through 5 managers/coaches in one year?

 

So how much time does this buy Edin before the calls for protests again?

Is it a few games or until we see how January transfer window goes?

 

Rahic was, I quote, "encouraged" by the level of applicants and was "happy" with the shortlist of candidates prepared. Clearly then, it was a thumbs up from Rahic's end and it was the candidates who had turned us down. Generally, when someone turns down a job it's because the conditions set out are unreasonable or unsatisfactory. Something somewhere doesn't suit them, and who, in this instance, set out the terms in which no manager /headcoach was prepared to work for us? Rahic. I don't know what level of evidence you're after, but ultimately it boils down to how much common sense you have.

This contradicts what Rahic has said.

 

Absolute WINNER!