Rupp & Sparks Out?

Only on the basis he has spent a personal fortune though RT. Without it , say spending £2m on a L2 player 6-7 years ago , in Watkins for a start . Without pots of money that couldn’t be achieved.

So yes his plan worked beautifully on the basis he threw money at it. Clearly his knowledge in data crunching worked admirably as you say RT.

From our point of view ….If only?

 

As you've already alluded to a plan without real world investment is ultimately fruitless. The reason Brentford and Brighton, ironically owned by a good friend of Benham and someone who operates at the same level in a business sense, is that they both operate within a realistic business structure. Both clubs have made huge sums in the last few years selling players yet are able to pick up decent replacements for what you would call bargain money in today's football world, Brighton even signing one of our youngsters from the youth level. It's taken both clubs roughly 10 years or so to get where they are, both with premiership level infrastructure priced into their business model. It's kinda why Dmac struggles at the next level, his model allowing him to be effectively league 1 championship yo yo club and why the stadium will probably never get built.

 

Tony Bloom and Bentham hate eachother, they had a legal battle years ago and haven't spoken to one another since.

 

Being a lifetime Brentford fan is also a massive plus, I'm sure if either Julian or Mark had Bentham's wealth we would not be in our present position withy regards our football club, as you say if only.

 

Well thats me told. Didn't realise they hated each other that much but they do to crazy levels.

 

Met him in the early 90s when he was at DB trading CFDs.

 

Fully agree John
We haven't shown any structure, given a new manager a blueprint to work to etc etc in short a workable plan just sailed by the seat of our trousers desperately hoping that a new manager (chosen by a CEO with limited football knowledge) would suddenly turn round our fortunes we were very fortunate that Parky had the iron will and ambition to bring us some success
I like G A and think he currently has the attributes to get us out of this league but when he starts floundering and our form drops who does he have to turn to who can guide him through that bad patch we don't have an experienced football man at the club to steer the ship untill then we will just keep hiring and firing managers who let's face it are L2 managers and with the greatest of respect can't run any show single handedly otherwise why would they be unemployed and accept a position in L2
Leadership comes from the top at the moment despite a recent uptake in form something I believe we are still lacking in

 

Yes spot on. I never thought of Posh in the light you refer to but going back as far as 2018, remember they have been one of , if not my closest club for 25 years, I did say on here that his model is only as good as their recruiting/ selling. If that dries up, and it’s been pretty lean ( for them) over the last three years ..only £11m ! They are knackered because the attendances arnt sustainable.

Locally, everybody with half a brain knew they can’t fund a stadium without taxpayers money.
( Same usage tripe as the Bulls cite) . Hence ground ownership transferred and litigation / administration problems ensue with “ investors” . Remember DMc ‘s background is “selling” pipedreams.

 

What is actually meant by playing a “ style” or a certain “ way” Are we suggesting the club , forever more will only play 3-5-2 or 5-3-2, 4-3-3- or 4-4-2 and so on. That’s patent nonsense, you know and I know. Playing the same style means being fixed in method, rather than flexible . One can say a manager may set an approach in a club where all teams work to the same philosophy , whatever it may be.

I’m fascinated with this fixation of “playing to a certain style” , yet nobody is explaining what it actually means?

 

I must admit, I hadn’t realised that. I’m not disagreeing, but interested to know on what criteria that judgement is made.

 

If Alexander can get us up and running and get us out of the league were presently in I'll take anything that's on show.

 

Ditto Dave, ditto!

 

So what’s your solution?

 

I honestly don’t know why you/ we have a fixation with MKD.
I found an interesting article written in NOVEMBER 2021 ( TWO years ago) about their “wonder” style of play . They have had SEVEN managers since the article so not very clear to anyone what it actually is?. Clearly no manager knows what this alleged style is , remember they have been relegated since.

I don’t know if I said it before Jon, but the use of GA being sacked at MKD after 16 games is the worst example you could make. They recruited him knowing his history, knowing his style, which allegedly “ matched” their “ style” , yet still sacked him after 16 games. That’s insufficient time to judge a manager , especially after he won the first five on the spin.

We are going round in circles with the constant reference to a club having a “style” .

There is only one of value and that is the mentality of “ winning” , even then a winning formulae needs flexibility and above all funding , which immediately negates any recognised “ style” .

I’d be more than happy to see examples of a club having a style as opposed to a club having a winning formula based on nothing more than continual investment, which is why we fall down in the pecking order at the end of the day.

 

They don’t have a plan , we don’t have plan, that’s what I see.

This is a tiny extract from the piece I refer to. They were FIFTH in L1 at the time…….EXACTLY two seasons ago. What happened to the so called plan Jon SEVEN managers later.

“Conclusion
The new head coach has taken this MK Dons team from a side that players really attractive, possession-based football, to one which has held on to these principles while being far more efficient in front of goal and safer at the back through the team’s counterpressing structure.

The Dons are fifth at the moment in League One and if they manage to stay in the play-off spots by the end of the season, there is a great chance we will see Manning’s side promoted at the first time of asking.”

Sorry you won’t convince me, no matter what is said so best leave it.