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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Norman Corner, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. How

    How Knows Football
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    Genuine question; can you have lost the dressing room on a professional level but the players still like you on a personal level enough to go out for a meal when you leave?
     
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  3. Norman Corner

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    Yes. I would imagine everyone on here has experienced at their place of work.

    I like you as a person. Great guy fun to be with, down the pub, social situations but as for managing the team/dept/group I don't rate you at all.

    Happens all the time.

    Norman
     
  4. Bronco

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    But he only lost the dressing room when it suits your arguement, weren't most of the said players the very same players who had taken us to Wembley the previous season, plus of course Marshall who had a great season and Clarke who started most games under McCall.
     
  5. Park bantam

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    We have seen on two occasions with Stuart that his approach is great when things are going well . But when things start going south by his own admission he has no idea how to turn it around.
    When he gets his next appointment I hope he learns from it and distances himself from being one of the lads
     
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    McCall's been gone for 6 month's and we're stilling trying to decide what happened, who liked who, who feel out with who and why it happened (or didn't happen).
     
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  7. Norman Corner

    Norman Corner Fringe Player

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    Ahhhh

    Young and naive you are!

    When everything is going well then the management game is easy and because we like you as a person we don't really focus on the problems. We know they are their, we see them everyday but things are going well so why say or do anything,

    Now we have a few problems, things aren't working do we now look to you to provide leadership.,,but you can't do it do the cracks, previously skimmed over, the lack of leadership, ideas, strategy etc etc is now clear to all and the 'friendship' can't cover it up,

    I've seen it happen a thousand times in my career (me included) all over the world.

    So I am not saying things to 'suit my argument'. When the hard stuff had to happen, when we needed strong leadership and a change to strategy and ideas, he was found wanting. The players saw it and they gave up on him.

    It is a classic failure if management.

    Norman
     
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    That is because we have been given very little facts to process the information and come to a informed decision. We have had plenty of rumours which tap into your emotions and therefore we have the worst of all scenarios with ppl taking their respective sides with or without information. Unresolved conflict running right through the fan base. It is more than time to move on, we have a new season and a new team to support. I support the club irrespective of owners, managers and players.
     
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  9. How

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    Chances are we won’t ever get full facts when someone is sacked.
     
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  10. Ricc

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    bloody hell.

    Stuart left in January. JANUARY.

    his entire squad nearly has now left.

    he's still a club legend, and always will be. when will people stop bad mouthing him? give it a rest.
    you don't like him, you don't rate him, we get it.
     
  11. Norman Corner

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    Jeez but it's a really good debating point because the protagonists are so far apart.

    Relax and enjoy it.

    Norman
     
  12. Parader

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    If.

    There must have been 30 football league vacancies since January, including some local ones in this league, he's not been in the picture.
     
  13. Bronco

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    So I am not saying things to 'suit my argument.

    In this case I believe you are.

    It is a classic failure if management.

    You're corect unfortunatly again at owner level.

    Fortunatly most knew what the problem was at the time and it was not the manager, look further up the food chain, heres a clue his initials are ER.


    Young and naive you are!,
    only one of us is naive reading that comment **so funny
     
  14. Onside

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    Correct. So you have two options, you can move on with your own views of what has happened which you know other supporters share, or you can keep it going on here and other social media sites prompting the whole debate to continue. I never thought that a change of ownership would bring such divisions within our own supporters, it is sad, but it is also recoverable.
     
  15. Bronco

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    You don't know that to be true, unless your Stuart, his agent or one of the 30 or so chairmen or owners who have done the interviewing.
     
  16. punk bantam

    punk bantam Breakthrough Prospect

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    Hendrie and Gillead not expected to be playing tomorrow.
     
  17. Ulysses S Grant

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    Probably not, but there could be an element of guilt about it. I remember hearing an interview with Killa when asked about Stuart leaving he said it was something you just get used to and didn't sound that remorseful.

    Funny old game football.
     
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  18. Ulysses S Grant

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    Mysterious "stomach bug" ?
     
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    That's a shame.
     
  20. Ricc

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    but he most certainly was "in the picture" for the Doncaster job.

    them picking McCann over him is a major mistake, in my opinion.
     
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