World war 3....

BTW as of this moment Al Jazeera are still only reporting that the video was sourced and verified by the NYT, they do not have any independent verification.

BBC Reality Check have worked out exactly where it was filmed, got an idea as to when it was filmed and even the identity of one of the main protaganists in a detailed report with video stills, street views and satelite imagery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/61025388

 

Surely it's up to Ukraine whether or not they want to join NATO. Why should Putin be allowed to determine whether another sovereign country chooses to join a defensive international alliance? Why is it any of Russia's business what Ukraine chooses to do?

 

That conniving Ukraine government must be a real piece of work with their falsified accounts of Russian war crimes. They've managed to con 93 countries into suspending Russia from the UN Human Rights Council. I reckon they've got Penn & Teller working for them.

 

It's all staged I tell you:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/07/russian-soldiers-discussed-killing-civilians-in-radio-intercepts?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

There is no doubt that dreadful atrocities have been committed for which there can be no excuse especially against civilians, The Russians sadly have a history of this in other conflicts, Hopefully they will be fully investigated by the UN and documented although I suspect no one will be brought to justice as Russia like the USA do not recognise the International courts, The Ukrainian spokesperson has said they will investigate any wrongdoing on the part of the Ukrainian armed forces and it is hoped the Russians will do the same but very doubtful this will happen

 

Am not judging right or wrong, The Ukraine has a long history with Russia as a satellite part of the old USSR, in 2014 a peace agreement was agreed as part of Ukraine's independence, It was agreed that the USA, UK, and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's independence as long as it stayed non aligned to either the west or to Russia in the future, Zelenskyy by taking Ukraine to the west and trying to join NATO in effect broke the agreement with Russia to stay non aligned and became the threat to Russia it had agreed not to do, Breaking the trust of that agreement of non alignment and trying to align with the west gave Putin all he needed

 

Never ever doubt the power of the USA in these matters, and although the 93 countries voting for it is widely reported the fact that 82 were against it is not

 

My original post is correct 93 for, 24 against and 58 who abstained, Therefore the majority was only 11 not the 93 the media widely reported as in fact 82 were not in favour

 

Using your logic Only 24 countries voted against it, so 151 were not against it. A majority of 127 were not against it

 

Abstention isn't voting against it or they'd have voted against it

 

Neither is it in favour, however you work it the result was 93 in favour and 82 against, votes have to be positive to count in favour and those who vote against or abstain are not agreeing with the vote

 

It was jerrymandering at its best by not counting those that abstained as though they did not exist

 

Then explain how it got two thirds majority as you claim? Two thirds of those attending would be 116 but it only got 93?

 

As I originally posted you can only get to that by not counting those who abstained as if not there, Its not hard,