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Jesus they would be stopping 100's of cars in Keighley every day if that was true.

 

So 70% of stops don't have a positive outcome. That's a lot! You're also approximately 9 times more likely to be stopped as a BAME person.

Here's a 2016 government report that suggests that the tactic has 'no discernible crime reducing effects' to read.

I never suggested that.

 

Don't play games, thats exactly what you meant. If you think the police maybe racist in some way then say. Shit or get off the pot.

 

96%of accidents are caused by sober drivers, therefore it's far safer to drive after about 5 pints yeah..?

 

Yep. I read that. But it does produce 30% positives mostly in drug and weapon related incidents even if the crime rates them selves don't change. It takes weapons and drugs off the streets.

As I said at the beginning are you happy to forego those.

You're also about 1,500 times more likely to be stopped as a man rather than a woman. It would be laughable if I demanded and apology because I'd been profiled in a sexist way though

 

I'm not going to make any suggestions like that. I do think that there should by more stringent guidelines for stops. As I've already said, if the BRE case is investigated and there was a cloned plate record then the police are right to stop him, of course they are.

There's no reason why stop and search should end completely. As long as police are acting on proper intelligence.

 

I can't help but read this in a Boris Johnson voice.

 

Now I'm biting.

 

Kinda going round a bit in circles here.

Yes but it depends how firm the intelligence needs to be. If it has to be nailed on then theres no point anyway because they would just arrest at that point.

Being stopped is the middle ground where there are suspicions by nothing to be proven. It's a fine line but if you increase the bar so the police can only stop someone if they pretty much know that they've committed a crime than more drugs and weapons will be on the street.

 

You shouldn't be stopped for being BAME but nor should it allow you an invisibility cloak. If an area has a high BAME population then the percentage of stops will involve them surely. I just think this overpolicing thing is red herring. It's a lot harsher in most other countries and how often nowadays are they apologising for doing their job...it's nuts. They get caned for stopping and checking and caned when arseholes cause trouble for not being vigilant enough.

 

It's a fine line and the police have a tough job. I don't envy them at all.

I don't have the answers here, this goes much deeper than stops and searches. This is history, it's sub-conscious bias, this is an unjust society, this is the result of people living in poverty, this is so many things.

 

Effin 'ell, pray for Hoochy...

 

Now this has to be read in a Jeremy Corbyn voice.

 

We're best pals again now m8

 

City's actions have certainly annoyed a few who otherwise would have let the club keep the money, I'm with you a rather silly action to take in these hard times.

 

As I pointed out earlier the law firm is a current City sponsor so it's more than likely pro bono and results in yet more publicity for the firm