George Floyd copper

Just another Let's Get Brexit Dunce.

 

Google appear to " have lost Winston Churchill " , technical glitch . There were a lot of ex Squadies on the streets yesterday , dignified and well behaved . Yet all the MSM focused on the " football lads " , another distortion of the truth , the same last week peaceful protests , the MSM again focused on groups of people intent on trouble . The MSM have damaged Race relations in this country for decades to come , the voices of reason on both sides have been drowned out by the indoctrinated spite spewing out of the " Millitant " groups at both ends of the political spectrum .

 

I don’t agree with all of his points, particularly his statement of ‘we have police brutality in the UK’ - we don’t, not systematically and not one of racially motivated brutality. But his points are well articulated and reasoned. THIS should be the centre of the discussion taking place, not terms like ‘inherited racism’, or ‘white privilege’. A more insightful teaching of the role that slavery has played in our history and why it shapes certain attitudes today would be a valuable thing. But if we’re going to get past the lingering resentment that exists, it needs to be taught in full context - the origins of slavery going back many hundreds of years, its existence in all cultures - including, today, its presence in black cultures - and the role that white society and the British Navy played in its abolition. Too much of todays discourse centres around blame, revenge, victimisation. Issues persist today, of course they do. But lets focus on the today, with as much empathy on both ‘sides’ as possible. That includes the role that wider society has a moral obligation to address, but it must include the difficult discussion around the issues within the black community too.

 

I am a Brexiteer, but wouldnt dream of pi**ing on a statue or memorial, so dont see the relevance

 

I dont think he's far off the mark with that though. we do have it, but its also not on the scale of anything in america at all. He recently did a q+a which explained how a lot of the racial struggle in england is class and wealth based, which would maybe be a more accurate descriptor for police violence here.

This is my issue with our history curriculum in that i was taught pretty well about slavery prior to the transatlantic slave trade we engaged in so things like the romans and greeks and a little bit further back, but our bit was a bit of a blind spot. as he touches on in the video, so much of our imperial history happened abroad i think we gloss over some of it a little too easily and i cant remember who but another notable person has remarked on this before. I also think if this subject and history in general was taught in a more insightful, honest and nuanced way, it would go a long way to healing racial tensions as people would come at the subject from a starting position of much greater understanding and empathy.

 

These 'football lads'

Brexit
Katy Hopkins
Nigel Farage
Trump
Boris
All lives matter

 

All this talk of what happened 20 years ago, 50 years ago, 200 hundred years ago, a thousand years ago, it's becoming tiresome. It ultimately changes nothing, both sides exert all their energies trying to be the bigger point scorer seeing who can be more offended than the other. Ends up like groundhog day.
The problems still exists, what are today's perceived concerns, what do the people with these concerns realistically want and how do we as a society realistically achieve this?
Burning buildings, defacing monuments, pulling down statues, guarding the cenotaph, all well and good. Gets the blood flowing, releases the old testosterone. But what next?
Equality? For who? For black people? For people of Asian origin? For all of us?
Alright setting some police cars on fire giving it the big un but what's rehtoric here?

 

Spot on. When I talk about the problems in the way the issue is being tackled, this fella describes it perfectly. It’s a 14 min watch, but well worth it. (Ignore the title, its not representative of the content).

 

I think in this country particularly we are still very much influenced by our past and how we engage with it, which is why its an important issue. deal with that and a lot of issues will start to unravel themselves.

 

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, AKA Tommy Fkwit.

 

Is see the police didn't take long getting this clown arrested and rightly so too.
"A 28-year-old has been arrested on suspicion of urinating on the memorial of PC Keith Palmer".
I wonder when they will announce they have arrested these three on the right with no face masks on quite easy to pick out for criminal damage ?.

 

Naz Shah
David Lammy
Jeremy Corbin
Harriet Harmon
Sadiq Khan
Nichola Sturgeon
Ian Blackford

 

it may not change anything for you or many others, but an acknowledgement of wrongs and a simple apology can go a long way.. especially for those things that happened in more recent history such as the Bengal famine where almost 3 million people died or the internment and concentration camps used in Africa. Britain has a difficulty acknowledging it's difficult past to an extend where many refuse to even discuss it and education goes nowhere near it in the history curriculum - they'd rather teach about crop rotation. this needs to change.

just because you don't think it's worth it, doesn't mean it isn't important to others.

 

The man photographed in London gave himself up and was subsequently charged.

 

And rightly so too, 100s of cameramen around and the clown goes and urinates on a plaque dedicated to a very brave policeman who lost his life doing his job.
Any news of the other morons rolling Colston's statue into the dock area, or does that become the norm in these modern times.

 

Top post.

 

Not bad for starters, i'll give you James O'Brien (LBC) and the guy with the most slappable face Owen Jones..
Lass doing paper review on Sky last night couldn't wait to tell everybody that she thought all these problems were down to Trump and Farage.....amazing, just feckin' amazing

 

Oh look, here's Simon trying to turn it around to black people again. Just looking for the whole picture though, yep, that's it.

 

thought you were against violence?

yeh, because they've really de-escalated the situation. heroes of yours I imagine..