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Salford City Tickets [SOLD OUT] + Match Thread

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Stafford Bantam, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Bantamsteve

    Bantamsteve Impact Sub

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    He was promised "Investment" the season we got within a glove of promotion and it wasn't forthcoming that's why we didn't go up he won't get it next season either
    Not even SM can make a silk purse out of a sows ear
    Probably one of the best players we have ever had his management credentials especially working for a basket case of a club like us need proving
    My comment was in no way being critical more a case he could bring back the feel good factor and also boost season ticket sales rather than any proven ability to get us promoted not even Pep could have turned us round this season
     
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  2. Dennis

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    If you want to trade records Wayne, when GB left we were 8th in the league and 6 matches later we are 9th. McCall has done nothing to improve our position at all. Over the entire season, GB achieved 1.5 pts per game which would place us just outside the play-offs over an entire season. SMc has achieved 1.17 ppg which would place us just outside the relegation zone in a normal season.
     
  3. Dratsab taf

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    I made a point earlier about us seemingly been a worse team since reeves arrived back in the side. Its not a scapegoating post but the facts dont lie and we do seem to be constantly changing the midfield 2 however he has barely missed a game since returning.

    Going by my calculation reeves returned to the starting 11 in mid november at macclesfield. Prior to that we were
    P17 W9 D3 L5 - 31 from 51 points

    In the 20 games that have followed we have gone
    P20 W5 D9 L6 - 24 from 60 points

    Is there a need for a rethink? Seems a problem transfering draws into wins, is the side too safe when reeves is in there? Are there other reasons, and this is merely coincidental?

    Answers on a postcard please
     
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  4. Biker

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    GB was on a downward trajectory so his 1.5 was only going lower, McCall has failed to get us out of that horrific away form.

    Poor squad overall, that’s firmly at Bowyers door.
     
  5. Vonny Lass

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    Or you could just fire your own email to him and tell him he’s made a massive mistake appointing the guy that took us to our highest placed finish in more than a decade....... just so we don’t have to read your constant criticism of McCall every time you post.
     
  6. Bantamsteve

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    In a nut shell Dave a very lazy appointment am surprised SM accepted the job knowing he had absolutely nothing to work with promotion was gone the minute the transfer window closed and GB was still here
    We can go through manager after manager and get nowhere until the heirachy is sorted
    Stuart the prodigal son was brought back to give the place a lift, boost season ticket sales, with real no expectation of promotion otherwise we would have kept Vaughan and Doyle (given him something to work with)
    We seem to excel at closing the season in January
     
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  7. Dennis

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    His appointment certainly does demonstrate the mindset so prevalent within the club - short term vision; lazy appointment; focused on the commercial side of the club; wanting to keep costs down and less on the playing aspects.

    When a poll was taken just after SMc's appointment was announced, more than 50% of the respondents expected SMc to get us into the play-offs and nearly another third expected him to get us into the auto spots! Now that's bloody delusional. At the time of the poll, we just outside the play-off positions. 6 results later with a massive 7 extra points on the table, we are further away and the list of excuses for SMc continues to grow.
     
  8. Vonny Lass

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    McCall did criticise the closing down (or lack of) for both goals. He rightly said he didn’t want to hammer them (on the radio) as he has to try to build them up for Saturday.

    But it was clear he was livid, despite admitting it was a good strike.
     
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  9. Onside

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    It ingenious to fire stats about McCalls performance since he arrived. The fact is we should never have appointed Bowyer in the first place. Plus stats as far as they go have to be on an even playing field. You have to judge results firstly on having the same players at your disposal. McCall has not; plus he has not had an opportunity to bring in his own players. Not interested in stats unless it is like for like.
     
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  10. bantam2708

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    The writing was on the wall way before Reeves came back. Him coming back is merely coincidence.
     
  11. Dratsab taf

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    He was out of work and unlikely to have a queue of suitors waiting to employ him
     
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  12. Bronco

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    Hunters first goal p****d me off, I was right behind the right hand side of the goals and although I'd had a couple of beers before the game I swear that took a deflection off Mellor, and at best would have hit the wood work or possibly me behind the stanchions, great shot from where he picked the ball up but once again we were weak at closing the lad down, did we learn...........2 - 0 Salford.
     
  13. Briggus

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    Mmm even you Dennis would have to admit with some of Bowyer's results we were lucky getting a positive result. We won ugly and in most games, against poor opposition - add in the entertainment being so poor too - it was driving fans away. He also had the benefit of Vaughan most of his div 2 tenure and Doyle for some.
     
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  14. Vonny Lass

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    Stop writing sense. It’s clear there is an agenda against McCall and you pointing out the obvious that players cannot pass that round leather thing 5yds, must be McCall’s fault (even though he didn’t sign them)
     
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  15. Fordy117

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    So @Park bantam@Park bantam was wrong then mate?

    Glad you posted this because I would be extremely worried that a football manager couldn't see that the closing door for this strike was extremely dreadful.
     
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  16. Interested Bystander

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    The fact that NO other manager was spoken to speaks volumes. Fortunately the next appointment will have to be done through a proper process.
     
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  17. Fordy117

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    See I disagree and I think the main part of the squad was good enough and we were top 7 for most of the first half of the season.

    I think the problem was Bowyer!

    We shouldn't have loaned Doyle to Swindon(Rhodes fault) but the main thing was that even though we we winning games it was never a case of trying to blow teams away. He made us too negative.

    With Vaughan, Doyle and Donaldson that's enough to get you into div 1.

    The bottom line is we are not attacking enough.

    People on here we quick to make excuses for poor performances and I think we played Cheltenham and went down to 10 but it was awful back to the wall stuff but Plymouth go down to 9 and score against us.

    Now Doyle sold, Vaughan loaned, midfielders gone missing in games and defenders who can't play football plus Novak & Guthrie the squad has no chance... season is done!

    We blew it.. should of got rid on Bowyer in November to give McCall or whoever a bloody chance!
     
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  18. Vonny Lass

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    But my point still stands. The club appointed McCall to replace Parkinson. Rhodes and Lawn had sold up by then, but Rhodes suggested McCall and the deal got done. There was an argument at that time that we took the easy option, but as it was late early-season, nobody suggested it was down to ST sales.

    Stuart rebuilt the squad and took us one-step further than Parkinson managed the season before. We played good football and for the most part, we enjoyed going to games. We were within a keeper’s glove and a VAR decision from getting promoted. It then became knowledge that Rahic started to interfere with transfers, training and team talks. Despite all that going on and the co-owner undermining McCall at every turn, he still kept us in the top6. The bubble finally burst, Rahic had his chance and we’ve continued to fall since.

    I ask again, where is the evidence that Rhodes did not appoint McCall because he believes he can replicate his 1st season back in his 2nd spell and not just to sell STs?
     
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  19. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    I dont think its excuses at this point. Hes inherited a shockingly bad squad and the fact that the last 7 games are the first time they've been told to try anything even remotely expansive has shown up how bad they are. When you're talking about players who cant pass the ball accurately over 5 and 10 yards, or control a football, that's not on the manager who hasnt had any chance to sign replacements.

    We're systemically broken as a club. Serious change is needed and it might have to get worse before it gets better. Time to vote with our feet, not renew and force change.
     
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  20. Parader

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    It was the appointment of Phil Parkinson that changed the culture/philosophy at the club, not any boardroom changes - where we were just living hand to mouth and hoping to strike lucky with sell on clauses or cup runs.
     
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