Womens World Cup

‘Just because you’re offended, doesn’t mean you’re right’.
Ricky Gervais.

 

And vice versa

 

‘Just because something is in quotes doesn’t make it right ‘

 

It's a quote, so I used quote marks....

 

Just because you're right, doesn't mean you're offended....?

Abbo has explained the context of his post, which I also understood – without him having to explain. Someone getting the wrong end of the stick could be understood, but it’s been explained. That should be the end of it. Its an innocent misunderstanding – but, without aiming anything at anyone, and I’m not saying it’s the case here, it seems like these days people are unwilling to let things lie and accept that they may have misunderstood – their ‘right’ to be offended and to persuade everyone else of their moral high ground. A little bug bear of mine, which probably colours my own approach.

Anyhow, not really wanting to inflame this further, so I’ll step back from this conversation at this point.

 

Your P45 will be in the post.

 

I think the main thing, for those of us with daughters, it gives them opportunity to participate in a game that not long they didn’t really have the opportunity. I don’t directly compare it with the mens game as it is different. But to me that’s the main thing, fair enough if men don’t rate it - but it’s not for us, primarily, is it? Some people seem to get their knickers in a bit of a twist over something they apparently are not interested in and has no real impact on the mens game they prefer. Good luck to them, i reckon. The women’s game is improving and long may that continue.

 

Waiting for voluntary redundancy!

 

And so was mine

 

I've already said that I didn't understand the context of Abbo's statement, not having been in Bradford in the 60s & 70s.

Where he and I disagree is that he thinks it's ok to dredge up an analogy from 40/50 years ago, citing a name that was once seen as acceptable but now isn't, because of its widely perceived racial connotations. There are any number of ways he could have drawn the comparison with kids' football without using that particular example. It's like golliwogs - they were commonplace as toys and badges in the 60s and 70s, but they're now seen as utterly racially insensitive and unacceptable. The name Nig Nog is in the same category, as the definitions on Google make clear.
I think it's insensitive to use that example nowadays, regardless of its original context. Abbo obviously doesn't. We'll agree to disagree. End of discussion.

 

Anyone ever seen Offcomedun and Clity in the same room....?

 

A word is only unacceptable in relation to the context its used. Abbo has made his context clear.

 

I now understand the context but there were plenty of other, better, ways available to make the same point.
But, like I said, let’s agree to disagree because it’s not the main purpose of the thread and will just descend into the dreaded ‘bickering’ we hear so much about in these parts.

 

Yeah, we’re in the room opposite you and Colonel Blimp.

 

He could have called it anything but chose nig nog knowing that someone who didn't have the same contextual knowledge would mistake it for the well known racial slur that it is. Why the feck would you use the phrase nig nog? Knowing full well that it has far more well known connotations. Im sure you are usually an intelligent poster abbo but the use of the term nig nog is pathetic. Even more so when it's used to try and catch someone out.

 

Absolutely this. Well done to all of those really insightful spectators that point out how far behind the men's game it is. Have you ever wondered why that might be...

 

Apparently it does have an impact. Featuring on the red button and the final item on radio sports bulletins equates to it being 'shoved down our throats'.

 

Oh dear......

 

Best stop saying Abbo too just incase any Aborigines login on here and get offended. One of you can get offended on their behalf. LOL

 

Come on Steph! Kissed her wedding ring after getting the opening goal against Cameroon