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Womens World Cup

Discussion in 'General Football' started by BSABantam74, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. Onside

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    It is much less physical that is for sure, but they played well. However, because I am steeped in men’s football and especially lower league I found I was becoming impatient and frustrated watching. Nevertheless they did have a good skill set, which was on display last night. The other half thought they were excellent and we shouldn’t compare, and he thought they played really well and passed the ball well, plus using trickery on the ball.
     
  2. Bronco

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    Argentina were a poor side and with the possession we had we should have scored more, the last 10 minutes the English girls killed the game off, but at times it was like watching some of the games under Stuart, I was shouting at the TV "get the ball played forward".
     
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    I've started to watch a few games but never lasted long. This sudden and large increase in publicity for women's football is totally at odds with the product to sell, it's really, really poor. At this rate it'll take women 500 years to reach Bradford Nig Nog division 8 level.

    I caught England v Japan from HT yesterday. It was bizarre, England either mis-controlling, hoofing or just plain passing to Japan. And Japan actually playing football, women's football, less physical, far slower but having the gumption to use the space provided by all that. They were nice to watch. England were like a really bad pub team.
     
  4. Faithful Bantam

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    There’s also a media agenda to ram down people’s throats ‘how high the quality is’. It isn’t. It’s shit. But you can’t have a sensible conversation about ‘equality’ these days. I was having a chat with some work colleagues earlier which included a couple of women. One of the women seemed particularly into it but there was apathy amongst the rest - I made the suggestion that their games would be better to watch and the quality would be forced to improve by making the pitches and goals slightly smaller to compensate for the size and strength/power difference between men and women. I was basically told that my views were sexist. FFS.
     
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    Not sure about a smaller pitch, it'd be like watching an out of control pin ball machine.

    I agree, the quality is shit, its not like tennis where a top woman could beat a pro man, the gap is so big it makes uninteresting viewing for me. As for pay, they don't deserve much if Thackley's academy might spank them 5-0 after a night on the piss.
     
  6. WilsdenBantam

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    Haha something very similar to me happened last Friday. My female boss asked if I was watching the World Cup tonight I said no the golfs on, then she pointed out if it was the men’s World Cup that I’d watch it. So I got into the debate with her and said I would yes, but that’s because I enjoy the quality of men’s football, I wouldn’t watch a Sunday league match as it’d bore me, and the quality of women’s football is similar level without the physicality. She said so you won’t watch it because it’s women then? I said no I won’t watch it because it’s crap quality and I like watch top quality sport, even Bradford are high quality in comparison. Like you I mentioned potential alterations that could make it better and faster paced similar to what they do in sports like cricket, I pointed out they were trying to compete by the men’s rules when women biologically just don’t have the same physical stature, she said I was being sexist because apparently I don’t think women can do what men can. I do, it’s just in terms of football they can’t do it as well!
     
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  7. Faithful Bantam

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    Equality of opportunity and Equality of outcome are very, very different things but some people can’t or won’t understand that principle.
     
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  8. Offcomedun

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    Seriously?
    I'm going to assume this is an autospell anomaly because the alternative is too hideous to contemplate.
     
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    Seriously yep. You've taken offence before even thinking what you've taken offence at. Can't help you.
     
  10. Storck

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    Kids football?
     
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    "Too hideous to contemplate" funny as owt, absolute classic.:D
     
  12. Offcomedun

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    I haven't taken offence. I'm merely questioning whether you actually meant to use the phrase 'nig nog' in 2019.
     
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    Of course l meant to use it. I think l am going to piss my pants, do you actually know what l am talking about.:D:D:D
     
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    Regardless of the nignog club, it's not a Bradford specific word and has multiple meanings.
     
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    No, I didn't, until @Storck@Storck posted the above. Which is why I asked whether you really meant to use the phrase. It seemed completely random and gratuitous to me, having never heard of it.
    But, 40 years after the club closed, I can't see why you needed to use that particular analogy when, by current standards, the name is totally unacceptable and there are plenty of alternative ways you could have made the same point.
    My parents used to use the expression 'nigger brown' and could never understand why it was no longer acceptable. I suggest that nig nog club belongs in the same category.
     
  18. Offcomedun

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    Really? Such as?
     
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    Suggest all you want, you are now clutching at straws to obfuscate the matter, namely, that you showed outrage at the use of an innocent term that you decided to attach racial connotations to, where none were implied.

    Now you've had the term explained you still can't say "Oops sorry". Google it, you obviously haven't and need to, there are many innocent meanings for nignog, l am sure there are not any for nigger.
     
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    I'm not obfuscating anything. The term nig nog is no less offensive than nigger. I've never heard it used in any other context. I've just googled it and the first six definitions all produce results such as 'offensive, derogatory term for a black person'. It's abundantly clear what every major online dictionary thinks the term means, whatever obscure colloquial usage it might once have had.

    I'm certainly not going to say sorry. I now understand the context in which you used it. But I don't understand why you think it's still acceptable to use an analogy citing the name of a club that's been defunct for over 40 years that bore a name which is now socially unacceptable, when there were so many other options you could have used.
    Language changes with the times. It used to be socially acceptable to call learning disabled people mongs or cretins. Now it isn't. Just because something was seen as ok in the 60s & 70s doesn't justify casually using it now if it's clearly no longer a socially acceptable term.
     

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