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Womens football

Discussion in 'General Sport' started by Peter, May 24, 2025.

  1. Peter

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    I’m no sexist but I’ve watched some women’s football today Chelsea v Barca I’ve heard work class , technically brilliant yet they didn’t fit with what I was seeing. I’m all fr equal rights but Jesus s Christ
     
  2. king karl

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    It has its place... Just not on my tv
     
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  3. Offcomedun

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    I watched the Barca v Arsenal CL Final today. I enjoyed it. Good game between two very different styles of teams.
     
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    That to me is what annoys me about women's football. They are so bothered about trying to prove they are equal that they sabotage making an entertaining product.

    As you have said technically they are good but the physical side they are just lacking . As someone who back in the 90's when I was at School had Girls on out school football team and at lunchtime and after school would join us for a kick about I saw first hand the physical advantage males have, in the pre-puberty years they could hold their own, infact one of them was the best on the team but as we approached the ages where there had to be a split in the teams they were dropping off, not because they had got less skilful or we had got more skilful but because of the physical advantages. After they couldn't play in the same school team they would still join us for kick about and that physical aspect caused a bigger and bigger advantage.

    Now the things like pitch dimensions and probably even more importantly the goal sizes are sized based around male physical attributes, most sports will make adjustments to create a better package around the women's game, the WNBA use smaller dimensions of the court and smaller balls and Tennis uses lighter balls but we don't get that in womens football.

    If we had smaller goals for women then the fact that women have less powerful spring and slightly slower reaction times that would help the game. Just look at any penalty shootout, they can strike it mid height and well within the post which would be bread and butter for an u15 boys keeper and they get nowhere near. Give the keepers more chance and it makes the strikers have to take better shots and you get a game that pushes everyone to get better more and you get a more entertaining game.

    And if you make the pitch dimensions smaller you will make it more technical which is an area they can compete in and you give women's football a unique identify kind of like you see in Tennis where women will play a range of shots you never see the men play and also throw in more variety. It might also counter the injury issue, females get cruciate injuries in an alarming rate compared to men which a big part of that is probably related to gate which puts different pressures than it does men when they are turning quickly and sprinting. Focusing more on technique might counter some of that
     
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  5. Salty

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    Women have laxer ligaments than men generally which makes them more prone to injury. Giving them tighter spaces to work in may well increase the torsional stresses they're subjected to and actually increase the injury rate?
     
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  6. Kevin1954

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    So the consensus is it’s a made (up) for TV sport .

    Other than Arsenal, live attendances and viewing figures are falling off a cliff if the stats are correct.
     
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    How is it ‘made up’? Women have been playing versions of football since at least the 16th century and playing the codified game we now recognise since the late 19th century. The first women’s international was in 1881. Women’s club football was extremely popular in the early 20th C and drew big crowds, until the FA stupidly banned it in 1921.

    https://www.thefa.com/womens-girls-football/heritage/kicking-down-barriersKicking Down Barriers - The story of women's football in England

    Most sports have women’s competitions - tennis, athletics, swimming, cricket, golf, most Olympic sports etc etc. Plenty of people watch the women’s versions and enjoy them as competitions in their own right. No one expects the women’s versions to be exactly the same as the men’s version or for the standard to be as high. Men are bigger, faster, stronger etc so they are obviously going perform at a different level from women. But that doesn’t make the women’s versions invalid.

    I don’t understand why so many on here get so steamed up about women’s football. Of course it’s not the same as men’s football. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. But please don’t decry the pleasure of those who do enjoy it or dismiss it as somehow pointless, when it has such a long and valid history.
     
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    I have no interest in womens football for the same reason i have no interest other sports that i have no attachment to but i wouldn't berate others that do. Womens sport is a way of breaking down barriers in countries where women are still treat like second class citizens, we have a long way to go though.
     
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  9. Kevin1954

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    Made up for TV . Didn’t read the rest, anpologies in andvsnce, although opinions will differ and one is perfectly entitled to it . I detest it …Old fashioned, of course. I refuse to watch nor engage in its promotion .
     
  10. Dennis

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    I agree. I don't recall ever watching a women's game but that's simply my own preference. Equally I rarely watch PL games (too much like chess). I similarly don't watch golf (a good walk spoiled!) Or superleague (I don't understand uncontested scrums but do watch rugby regularly) or horse racing (yet I enjoy going to race meetngs). We're all different with our preferences but I don't underestimate the attraction of those other sports to many nor deride those who do enjoy them. It's a shame that women's football has to attract such a negative response from many on the basis that it's not as good as the men's game.
     
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    The exception of course, and my own personal favourite, is beach volleyball. I'm sure the women's game will get much higher viewing figures than the men :)
     
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    But it’s not made up for TV. It’s been around for 150 years. I don’t understand why you think it’s just a TV phenomenon or why you don’t want it to thrive.
     
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  13. Kevin1954

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    I know it’s old , it’s made up in the sense it’s promoted beyond its “ demand” . I was reading the other day that only Arsenal are maintaining attendances whilst the remainder of the “ top flight” crowds are poor and dropping . Who knows if this is accurate but it was on BBC sports app . It’s cheap to produce and broadcast to entice advertising revenue . I just detest it . I can’t explain it other than that .
     
  14. Kevin1954

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    The point is Dennis you summed up nicely , it’s not as good as the men’s game nowhere near imho . A pale imitation ?
     
  15. Dennis

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    I believe you've misunderstood what I posted. I said it's my preference not to watch women's football on the same basis that I don't watch some other sports including PL football. I said that others choose to respond negatively to women's football on the basis they regard it as inferior to the men's game.

    I wrote this some time ago and it still reflects my views on this subject ...

    https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/lionesses.6317/page-6#post-667261
     
  16. Kevin1954

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    Ok thanks .
     

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