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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Onside, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Onside

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    By Alex Scott

    Where do you even start?

    It’s not good, is it? There are dismal away defeats. There are dismal away defeats against ten men. There are dismal away defeats against ten men where your only chance is a soft penalty. And then there is whatever that was.

    They say it’s sometimes harder to play against ten men. City partially proved that on Saturday as they were thoroughly outplayed by an outnumbered Fleetwood Town. That said, they didn’t look up to much against eleven either.

    At times during their abject second half performance you began to wonder how few opposition players it would take before that City team would look like an adequate third division team. Nine? Six? Eight, but their keeper has his hands tied behind his back?

    It’s not good, is it? The way this team plays and the futility you feel when they inevitably fall behind is disappointingly reminiscent of the last City team that was relegated from this division. For what I am sure are many good attributes I’ve not had a chance to see yet, George Miller and Eoin Doyle are demonstrating a little too much of the Moses Ashikodis for this fan’s liking.

    The team looks out of their depth in a pool too deep, with their lifeguard stood watching pensively on the side, blaming them for losing their shape as they drown. The shape is the least of their worries.

    Fellow Bradfordian Adil Rashid played in a Test Match for England recently where he didn’t score a run, take a catch, or take a wicket. England still won the game. Whilst a team can probably carry one Adil – up against a collapsible middle order at least – building an entire squad in his image seems to be an admittedly admirably parochial, but ultimately ill-advised, strategic decision.

    If you’ve seen City at all this season, I doubt you really need me to fill in any blanks about what happened on Saturday. They could have fallen behind immediately, twice, but didn’t before City’s defence broke out its already well practised Keystone Cops rendition. Eoin Doyle cooly converted a soft penalty against the run of play, before Wes Burns slid in rashly on Adam Chicksen and saw red just before half time.

    In fairness, after restricting myself to the Barnsley and Southend games thus far, the first half was certainly the best 45 minutes I’ve seen this season. The subsequent imbalance in personnel from the red card led to a surprisingly positive half time where dreams of maybe creating a chance from open play in the second half took hold throughout the away end.

    ***

    Nine months ago to the day, City battled to a 2-1 victory on the same ground maintaining their run of two and half years mostly unbroken play off football. 2018 had promise. Watching City attempt to replicate that comeback in the second half brought that contrast to bear.

    Not one of that squad was in today’s squad. Nor anyone in the dugout. That team in January wasn’t close to the strongest side we’ve had over recently years, but it was competent, committed and organised.

    Not one of this squad has yet demonstrated in a City shirt they are an improvement upon any of that squad in January.

    The second half performance was abject. At times, it bordered on performance art. A dispiriting cocktail of several experienced professionals abdicating responsibility whilst hiding from the ball, and many young players who whilst trying admirably, had, at best, been put in a position to fail by their manager, or, at worst, had been hung out to dry in an attempt to deflect pressure off himself.

    It became the latest in a run of matches where you stare at the names of the players who finished the game and wonder what on earth happened during it to lead to that jumble.

    City finished a game chasing a goal with two inexperienced wingers (one of whom was a full back on debut), a teenage attacking midfielder (in his fourth game) as primary playmaker, the squad’s only striker in the hole, two full backs in a back three and a combined 89 City appearances across the pitch (24 of them from Adam Chicksen). Their captain, star player, and Australian international defender had been withdrawn to enable this.

    It has become clear over the first few weeks of the season as they have been routinely outplayed and outcoached that there is a fatal problem with either the message or the messenger. It’s becoming clearer by the week that it’s probably both.

    In 1969, Canadian academic and hierarchologist Dr Lawrence J. Peter famously established the Peter Principle, which went along the lines that every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence.

    Forty two years later, former businessmen and City chairmen Mark Lawn and Julian Rhodes established the less well-known Peter Jackson Principle, which went along the lines that it is never too soon to admit a mistake when it is apparent to everyone paying attention. Both of these felt pretty apt walking away from Highbury.

    ***

    In two years and a few months, the club have managed to lose the services of their two most successful managers this century, as well as dismantle not one but two play off teams. And, for what? The promise of a new, exciting, ambitious club the fans could get behind? They already had that! Twice!

    As philosopher and *@?$ fighting enthusiast Peter Griffin once stated “Not so fast Lois, a boat is a boat, but a box could be anything. It could even be a boat!”

    When the man in charge of strategic decisions at your city’s premier sporting asset is following axioms established by a poor man’s Homer Simpson you end up with performances like Saturday afternoon.

    At the away games at Southend and Fleetwood, I’ve cumulatively seen a soft penalty and a Jordan Gibson one on one in the form of chances created. Two decent fish and chips at least, so not all lost.

    But whilst the mostly southern based City fans could find solace in the fact that “I don’t know, maybe Southend are good?” The crowd at Fleetwood appears to have made up its mind and it wants to convict on all counts.

    The owners – and in a spectacular showing of hubris, the manager – may put this discontent down to the fickleness of the fanbase, but they are betraying their lack of understanding about the motivations of their fans (their customers), and human beings in general.

    You methodologically, and with malice of forethought, remove every single player from the squad with whom the fans have a relationship and wonder why the fans aren’t giving the benefit of the doubt to the team?

    You sack the club’s iconic figure as manager for one bad run and replace him with the miserable dirge of Simon Grayson, then whatever this is supposed to be, and wonder why the fans are frustrated?

    You make the exact same series of decisions a sleeper agent trying to ruin the club would make over a prolonged two year span, and wonder why the fans don’t have faith in your vision?

    ***

    The final ten minutes on Saturday watching City fail to locate the screw, let alone turn it, bore out the myriad ills of the club at the moment. Not only have they managed to recruit an entire squad of players who to a man are not replicating the performances of their predecessors, they are organised in a way where every in-game decision or substitution makes them weaker in defence, and also somehow less dangerous in attack.

    It isn’t just that the team are performing poorly, or are failing to adapt together. It’s feels more fundamental than that. The machine feels broken. Everything we are seeing feels like a symptom of something worse.

    I’m sat here on the train back home trying to think of the positives in the manner of a man who has earnestly picked up a broken appliance, stared at it for ten minutes before concluding, “nah… it’s fecked, that.”

    Where do you even start?
     
  2. simons (woking bantam)

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    Wonder what M O'connor made of that as doesnt look his rant last week had much impact!

    And wonder who will be next in line to come out and say 'that performance was totally unacceptable' blah blah blah
     
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  3. JonButterfield

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  4. Fordy117

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    Not for me.

    Alex Scott needs to grow a pair and say directly what needs to happen.

    Collins needs sacking
    Edin needs to leave.
     
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  5. Tennesseebantam

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    Thanks for posting this @Onside@Onside . My favorite ever City post was by the same person, immediately after the Swansea final. Now compare the general tone if the 2 articles. From overwhelming pride to absolute despair. And thank you to Alex Scott for so wonderfully expressing those different emotions.
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    That is what he’s saying.
     
  7. Utters0

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    They’re just trying not to totally alienate the owners. Both Jason McKeown & Mike Harrison are attempting to contact Edin for meeting asap.
     
  8. Tennesseebantam

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    Apologies for fat finger syndrome.
     
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  9. Faithful Bantam

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    Setbacks make you better apparently.

    We'll be shit hot soon.

    Seriously though, an excellent piece.
     
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  10. Chris Withe

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    Had to refer to the original article as '*?@$ fighting enthusiast' had me totally baffled.
     
  11. Stafford Bantam

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    I honestly believe that we have gone far beyond meeting with Edin. Stefan possibly, but not Edin.

    Unless of course, they feel its important to demonstrate they've at least tried with Edin, before moving on.
     
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  12. Fordy117

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    Make it clear.

    COLLINS OUT!
    EDIN OUT!

    People need to stop pussy footing around now!
     
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  13. Utters0

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    I agree but I think that is their reason exactly. Apparently the last time they wrote articles Edin said he would have liked them to have spoken to him first, that’s what they are trying to do this time but neither sounded hopeful he’d be willing. That would tell it’s own story!
     
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  14. Fordy117

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    Unless they're going to ask Edin why he wants a yes man in charge? Why he is still at the club then what's the point.

    Get straight to the point. Not point messing.
     
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  15. Utters0

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    Absolutely, any interview needs to ask all the difficult questions and not accept the bullshit spin that Edin will inevitably come back with without serious challenge.
     
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  16. Fuzzy

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    Not sure what good an interview would be at the moment. It's not as if he can say that either the players or coaches aren't good enough because it'll alienate his employees and make the situation worse. At the same time, he can't say that he's messed up because that would also mean that he thinks that the players or coaches he's hired aren't good enough.

    The only way he'll be doing an interview is either because results and performance pick up and he can say "I was right" or if he sacks Collins and gets someone else in and then he can say "I got it wrong but I've fixed it".
     
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  17. Fordy117

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    We're at danger point now.

    With of the post, Simon Parker, BBC Leeds, Pulse Sport, Tim Thornton, Billy Bantam, @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler, all City fans need to now stop pis&ing about at make things clear to Edin that things need to change now or he has to leave. First change has to be to get rid of Collins!

    If we all want to see division 2 football again then let's all carry on do nothing, say nothing!

    It's time we all acted and act now.
     
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  18. Wakefield Bantam

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    Looking forward to your contribution to WOAP in the near future.
     
  19. vladimir

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    Hasent he heard of the free press, speech, its high time things need to be said this is a ideal time to clear the air..if he dosent like it he knows what to.do !
     
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  20. River_City_Bantam

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    Agreed. I've always enjoyed reading his pieces; to my mind he gets both content and style right.

    On another point, I also think that WOAP, and the City Gent, do need to try to get interviews with Rahic, just (as mentioned) so that there can be no "You never talked to me!" complaints later on. He mightn't like the pieces that result, nor readers' reactions, but he's brought it on himself. If he refuses, then there's yet another point that can be made to Rupp about his co-owner's failings.

    RCB
     
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