Where will it end... 12th September as it happens

Educating the children it’s vital that schools open in September and it’s being resisted by unions

 

So schools are closing in Leicester..How is it vital? Only a fool would put a date on it now because closing down the schools in Leicester now prove it might not be safe to send kids back and until you know whats going to happen with this virus the saying it's vital schools open in September is crazy.

Also lets not forget pubs, hotels, B & B's, hairdressers, restaurants are opening before all kids are going back to school plus you can go to beaches and on holiday. How is it vital? If it was vital then that would be the number 1 priority.

 

unions being cautious for very good reason Leicester is just the start of the second spike
Children can learn remotely and hopefully the parents will " share the load" and teach what they can at home. Admittedly the children's social skills will be getting neglected but the art of communication amongst kids is tapping on an I phone these days
Have you thought who in the majority collects kids from school and looks after them till the end of the working day
The most at risk Grandparents !!!!!
Agree it is vital to get some kind of routine going for them but only when it's safe

 

No one can put a full reopening date on schools with any level of confidence no one knows the situation in September
The reopening of pubs hotels restaurant etc will be a letdown for the economy who wants to queue to enter a pub sit at the same table socially distant all night unable to move around order and pay for beer on a phone app and have to request when needing the loo not me for sure The public have got used to having their tipple at home inviting a few friends round where possible
The smoking ban started the decline of the pub trade this has killed it completely with a massive loss of government revenue personally more looking forward to a haircut than visiting a pub
Schools will return when the unions are happy that it's safe for pupils and teachers my guess is that situation is a long way off

 

What @Park bantam isn't getting is that it's the conservatives in power and they keep on dropping dates then trying to get Labour to agree but only a fool will drop dates at this moment and Boris is a fool. Labour don't have to say anything or agree. If it happens fine but if it doesn't then Boris looks more foolish than he is.

 

I don't always pick these up every day but 17 new cases in hospitals (Tier1) in Yorkshire is the lowest I've seen yet. There were no new cases in Doncaster, Hull, Rotherham, Hull, Wakefield and York hospitals on Sunday.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/eight-areas-yorkshire-recorded-new-18509884

It has been mentioned today that Leicester hospitals had risen to 6-10 new cases each day in recent weeks. It seemed to have been running at 5-6 for several weeks when I checked Leicester Mercury reports, so it had definitely not fallen away as seems to be happening generally. Going back into lockdown seems a bit harsh even it has risen slightly to 6-10 new cases per day. Loads of hospitals around the country are still getting a few to several cases per day. That's way lower than back in March and April so the thought of anywhere going back into lockdown if they just double for a few days seems worrying. UK hospital testing continues to show a good trend of ongoing steady fall in new cases (best seen on the 7-day moving average):

http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

 

The worrying thing though is there was still 155 deaths today and over 800 are being infected in other countries they would be locking down again

 

Yes - but those deaths reported are over many days in the past. The number is being bumped up by old deaths that have been late to report - I gather there's a backlog of autopsies. When allocated by date of death they are now down to about 30 per day, which you can see if you check the link I gave. That compares with normal deaths per day around 1500-1600 in the UK. For old and vulnerable people worried about going out, that means Covid-19 increased your risk of death by about 2% - but that's not now, that's from infections 4-6 weeks ago. It's probably way under 1% now, though that's an average so it will vary from region to region.

Also, the death rate was worse than flu to begin with but it seems to be easing and might be no worse than flu. Now that might be because more young are venturing to be infected out while old stay in - or maybe not if it swept through care homes early on and took out the most vulnerable. Also, more women are being infected than men now. It was the other way around until a few weeks ago. So, we now doing local lockdowns, which brings economic damage and ill health and death from them, for a disease that no longer seems to be killing more than flu for the time being - though that could change again, maybe if more old and compromised venture out.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/doncaster-next-town-risk-leicester-22278112

"Figures show there were 11 new coronavirus cases in Doncaster between June 13-19, which more than doubled the following week. Between June 20-26, 32 new infections in the town were confirmed, taking the total to 950."


I've only just posted that Doncaster hospitals had no new cases on Sunday 28th, so maybe they'll get lucky. The council has issued a statement saying no concerns have been raised by PHE.

https://www.doncaster.gov.uk/News/statement-on-covid-lockdown

 

8 Yorkshire hospitals trusts see no new cases as the county total hits a new low of 9. Bradford sees 4 which is a flattish trend as far as I can tell. It jumps around a bit at such low levels. Bradford hospitals don't look to be seeing more cases. They just don't seem to be falling quickly, like the rest of Yorkshire. (Although South Yorkshire hospitals are seeing 2 or 3 cases per day, that's lower than a few weeks ago.) Overall cases are very low, though. Everywhere is getting close to zero. Panicking when new cases in hospitals is seeing zeroes all over the place now seems mad to me. It can't go much lower!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/fresh-cases-covid-19-confirmed-18518237

 

Twice as much immunity from T-cells as antibodies? This explains why infection rates peaked earlier than expected in many countries and means herd immunity could be within reach for countries that have already reached high levels of infection.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53248660

If this is right, we should be able to continue unlocking without worrying greatly about the odd flare-up and we could be looking at normal crowds for football next season. The more vulnerable would still have to be cautious without a vaccine, though.

 

Not too sure about that Aleman. The lady who looks after our house in Spain has emailed at 4.30 pm today saying she hears Bradford will likely be the second city in Lockdown any time. I've checked on our media and it looks right.
She also said the place where we have our house has had ICU at the local hospital full of COVID cases since the weekend which is being blamed on visitors from various locations in and out of the country and she expects Lockdown to return before the weekend.
Not such bright news.

 

Just been back to Bradford today for the first time since the lockdown. Called at Tesco on canal road and in a crowded store there was no discipline people weren’t keeping their distance and ignoring the one way system no surprise the rate is going up

 

It's been that way since the first day of the original lockdown.

 

Barnsley at 3 is a bit of a surprise...precious little amount of BAME there.....

 

I appreciate that you've been positive all the way through this, maybe overly so but in all honesty I dont see where you're coming from on this.

Herd immunity looks to be miles away, the decline of the virus and deaths seems to have levelled off and the odd flare up can very easily get out of hand. Especially as travel becomes easier.

I appreciate the positivity but it needs to be tempered with a lot of caution and realism.

 

Bradfords figures may have been distorted by the outbreak at the meat proccesing plant in Cleckheaton,which has a BD postcode.That outbreak was quickly dealt with,and did not spread into the community,as very few workers at the factory live locally.As far as i am aware,that outbreak did not lead to any hospital admissions.

 

There aren't enough brain cells to go around in Barnsley, that's why.