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Vaughan and Doyle gone

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BD6_Bantam, Jan 27, 2020.

  1. Fools Gold

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    Really ?
     
  2. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    You make no sense.

    No money in football and he brought a football club.

    So we are owned by a man worth 150m then? So stop talking utter nonsense!
     
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  3. Dennis

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    I think you're equally talking nonsense. From your own admission only yesterday, you're expecting a guy who has spent €6mill of his own money to buy a business and then to simply up sticks and walk away having lost everything. For somebody who tells everybody on here how he runs a string of successful businesses, yoiu seem to have a lot to learn about running a business successfully. Anybody might conclude from some of your utterances that you have no experience whatsoever in the world of business.


    ps when you continue saying, he owns '150m', is that sterling, zloty's or Zambian dollars?
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    It's 150 million in a suitcase under his bed.
     
  5. Park bantam

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    Should have said sanctioned by Rupp
     
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  6. Dennis

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    No!
     
  7. Fordy117

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    How is it nonsense?

    What Park keeps saying is that they is no sugar dad out there blah blah blah but we are owned buy someone who has plenty of money. 150m, 150 gold coins call it what you want but he has money and plenty of it.

    So the issue isn't finding someone that has money the issue is that our owner is playing games with the club and is as bad as Edin.

    As for the 6m you're quoting. I was pointing out that Mr Rupp needs to take a bigger hit. If he doesn't want to be here, if he doesn't want to move the club forward then take a hit and sell the club. Move on! Stop wasting everybody's time. Before you say he's a businessman why take a hit well ex football owners do take a hit. Some have sold for a pound to get out of football.

    Rupp, Bowyer and Rhodes just need to leave. Fans are falling out with each other, fans not wanting to go to games. The club is a mess.

    I admire how you defend the likes of Park (the only person that seems too)but you know this club is in trouble if it continues as it is. You know!
     
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  8. Fordy117

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    How much then?
     
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  9. Park bantam

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    Yes however much Rupp has he is wealthy but what you don’t understand is he has no desire to lose anymore money on Bradford city.
    Owners are trying to get out of clubs at the moment because of the money involved.
    Unless any new owners are prepared to lose a lot of money the club will continue to be run on business lines
     
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  10. Dennis

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    Do stop changing your stance again. Two days ago in a post to me, you said he should be prepared to acept up to £6mill for the club. Then yesterday, that was reduced to £2mill and then within 10mins of saying that, you said he should just go with nothing. Expecting Rupp to leave with nothing is just nonsense. And you had the temerity to accuse another poster of not having a balanced opinion.

    Whether the club is in a mess or not isn't the point. If you believe that he will simply up sticks and go without anything is just pie in the sky. It's never going to happen. But if you really believe he would do that, why don't you drop him an email and offer to take the club off of his hands for nothing? Then you could add it to your business empire and make a success of it.

    ps Rupp does have plenty of money but not the £150m you keep quoting ad nauseam
     
  11. Fordy117

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    Yes mate I don't disagree with you about his lack of desire as that is clear to see.

    However, this is why I am starting to think him and Edin plotted this together. Everyone knows in business that football is a loss leader, so why would a man with no interest by a football club?

    Football clubs are being sold. If Rupp wants to sell he could do but he will have to take a massive hit.

    I just think fans are being played with this Mr Rupp isn't in to football line.
     
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  12. borderlescott

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    Rupp will lose more money in League One than he will in League Two if our season ticket sales are poor.

    Up to now the club have benefited from good backing from the fans but with so many turned off by Bowyer we are going to be in reeeeeaaaaal trouble in the summer.

    If we lose 4k fans, say, and end up with 8,000 fans paying peanuts, what sort of budget is that gonna leave us with? The prices have been set now and some (albeit not many) have already been sold. They can't put them back up for next season now.

    The only way the club saves itself is if Bowyer delivers promotion or Bowyer walks and the fans get back onside. it seems the club are sticking with Bowyer, so the only thing that makes sense is for the board to give Bowyer funds today to replace the lost quality.

    Won't hold my breath, mind.
     
  13. NorthernMonkey

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    Or we could ask the manager to adopt a more progressive approach and one not from the dark ages which flogs centre forwards to death with zero reward.
     
  14. Dennis

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    I thought you'd know given how many times you refer to his wealth.

    For your information, it's about €120m or in our terms about £100mill. That's still a significant amount of course and doesn't change the basic premis that he has little intention of investing any more in a football club in which he has little interest, in a part of the world where he has no connections. He bought it unwittingly as a business proposition imo. He was sold a pig in a poke and at some time he will have to cut his losses and sell. But if you continue to believe that he will just go and leave everything behind, you're in for a surprise.

    As I said earlier, if you really believe that then drop him an email or give him a call and offer to take it over from him for nothing. I'm sure we'd all be interested in his response, probably on the lines of Sich verpissen Schwachkopf
     
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  15. Fordy117

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    Let's leave it there.

    I reduced it by 4m because 1) The ambition to go up seems to have gone 2) season ticket sales will be lower 3) the business dealings recently highlights to be he doesn't care and with that might as well just take the hit and sell.

    Could I run the club better - 100% but so could you.

    Now, yes we can all sit here and see our club suffer but that's Bradford people for you and that's why Bradford gets left behind in general but why should I care, if you don't?

    As,I keep saying no money in football, so no I won't be emailing the club but hopefully someone else around the world will be so because our owner is a joker when it comes to running this club.
     
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  16. Onside

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    It is complete drivel given out to the fans, so they can pretend he is one of our own crap!! When what really turns them on is the ££££’S going into their padded bank accounts. Before anyone tells me off for being cynical I fully admit it.
     
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  17. Allotment Bantam

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    Fordy also seems to think all Rupp's money in an easy access savings account. Someone with that much wealth will have a very good proportion of it tied up in assets for getting term growth or things like property that cannot be realised easily. Besides which he may well want to keep most of it for other purposes.
     
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  18. Dennis

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    Yes, there is very little money to be made in football outside of the PL and those clubs in the Championship who receive parachute payments. The vast majority of other Championship clubs run at a loss (a considerable loss for some) which their owners have to support in various ways. Down at our level, the last analysis I looked at said that three-quarters of all Div 1 and 2 clubs were dependent on their owners to cover their losses. Every club bar 1 in the past 7 years who has gained promotion from Div 1 to the Championship all needed the financial support of their owners to do it. That's what we're up against.
     
  19. Fordy117

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    I don't think anything about that.

    All I look at at is that since he has owed the club it's been a joke and we have gone backwards.
     
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  20. Dennis

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    Exactly. He has several investment companies which have investments in all sorts of companies and projects. As you say, no person who is successful in business has cash sitting around in an easy access acount. You'd have thought that somebody who had his own business empire would understand that!
     
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