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The Pitch

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Plastic Bantam, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. Plastic Bantam

    Plastic Bantam Fringe Player

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    So once again the pitch has reared it's ugly head. It was said earlier in the season the budget for the pitch was cut right back and the groundsman was basically given a four figure value to maintain it. and that the remainder of the budget was given to the manger for the playing squad. Another Rhodes tactic that I don't agree with, not every penny available needs to be pumped into the playing squad. We ended up with a massive squad full of dross.

    To me it's appalling that we either have an expensive (and rubbish) squad or a nice pitch.. It's been proven time and time again that you don't need the most expensive squad to compete. Going forward we need to make sure money is made available so that the pitch can at least be playable. Last season it was fine all season.

    It's an embarrassment to the club, when we're playing teams with better squads and better pitches than ours and we're claiming to have the 3rd highest playing budget in the league but trying to play football on a cow field. Now people are going to come on and say Edin scrimped and scraped and did it on the cheap. However the fact no one in the club has said that's true leads me to believe it's not the case and that if maintained properly it would be fine.

    It's another example of the amateur short term thinking way that our club is run. If we are to be successful it needs to change. If that means we don't pay £2.7m to an over inflated poor squad then so be it but it needs to change.
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    Accrington's chairman said earlier this week the only way they sorted their pitch was to do a proper professional job on it, they'd already wasted 10s of thousands on suck it and see repair jobs. The proof of their work is there for all to see, the pitch was still playable and in good condition right after storm Ciara. This needs sorting in the summer, not two or three years down the line. Looking at photos this year of a solitary lighting rig trying to persuade non existing grass to grow on that surface is the epitome of pathetic. Needs doing this summer regardless of cost. Enough pissing about.
     
  3. Plastic Bantam

    Plastic Bantam Fringe Player

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    I think it was sorted in fairness. It's just that it also requires maintaining every year and that costs more than than four figure sum which is what budget we gave the groundsman this year.
     
  4. Park bantam

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    The fact that the water drained shows that the work on the drainage the other year was worth it but even in August that year there were bald patches on the grass. So yes I agree it is a priority however despite all the fine words when the budget is cut there will still be howls of discontent
     
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  5. Rogered Tart

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    Well thats not sorted really is it? Ask a professional how much it would cost for the upkeep then budget accordingly. If a club like Accrington can sort their pitch out then so can we. None of this rubbish about 'how bad pitches were in my day', sick of hearing the excuses. Time to move into the 21st century, albeit 20 years late.
     
  6. Plastic Bantam

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    The budget can be cut and spent better.. If we implement a proper recruitment policy and give the club an identity in how the want to play and sign players to fit that identity rather than the scatter gun approach we've had for years and years.

    From top to bottom this needs to happen, if we can do this then the budget doesn't have to be so high in league two and league one. Yes it would be great to have an owner like for example Darragh McAnthony but for whatever reason we don't seem to ever attract those. However that doesn't mean we can't be a bit wiser when spending the money.

    I can't help but think we've just wasted a fortune this year on our transfer policy
     
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  7. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    Completely agree. If its a million quid, so be it. I'd like to thin our owner would underwrite the cost, given the windfalls we've had from McBurnie. But if not, trim the playing budget by 250k for 4 years. The way we spend on garbage signings, it shouldn't be too much of a sacrifice. I'd gladly trade Anderson, Devine, Mellor and Taylor for a decent pitch.
     
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  8. Bronco

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    I believe Paula Watson aluded to it when asked, saying the club did not go for all the bells and whistles and went for a cheaper option.
     
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  9. Onside

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    To ask professional players to play on that pudding is a disgrace and needs sorting in the summer, or even now if we can. However, I would prefer a professional analysis of firstly what is wrong with the pitch that it barely lasts 6 months, and what is required to not only fix the problem but maintain it throughout the year. I couldn’t careless what Rahic did or didn’t do, he is gone thank goodness. I hear we have asked someone to do an underground excavation of the pitch to see what is under the pitch in the summer. I really don’t want to hear from anyone at the club telling fans with wringing hands that we can either have a striker or a pitch that the professionals should expect, another Rahic excuse that appears to have carried forward.
    We will have both thanks, if we can literally waste money on players and managers throughout the year, then we can at least invest in our pitch, which really is an investment as the players can play better on grass than mud! Plus we won’t have to reimburse other clubs for traveling then having to cancel. I saw pictures of the pitch on Monday and it had puddles all over it, so the groundsman did a fantastic job to get that ready for last night. I think the process of helping the pitch drain properly is also damaging the pitch, just my view of course. It is balancing act, but the pitch has deteriorated very quickly this year. Rhodes has to take responsibility for this, we have a large squad, but we don’t need all the players regardless of ability, and although it is commendable to back the manager in giving him what he wants, but common sense comes into it. If you have spent liberally in the summer, then those players are not delivering questions need to be asked and caution needs to be employed.
     
  10. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    Drainage is the problem isn't it? I believe its largely as a result of the old retaining wall down the midland road side. Majority of the cost that's been speculated, relates to getting to that wall to dig/blast it out. So would presumably need to be a summer job.
     
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  11. Onside

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    Could be, but I thought the wall was in front of the main stand, but in either event it needs sorting. Enough is enough, no more prevarication.
     
  12. trevor

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    It is baffling how this pitch reputedly years ago won Division 2 pitch of the year in the past under a different groundsman
     
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    There is also the lack of sunlight in certain areas of the pitch, the main stand is responsible for that. This requires special equipment. The light rig we have is nowhere big enough, we need at least two to cover the pitch rather than patches. Southampton have one, it is enormous several covering the whole pitch and going constantly. Obviously we won’t be able to afford that, not only in buying it, but running it. That is how the prem overcome lack of light on the pitch.
     
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  14. trevor

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    I seem to remember that when GR renovated the pitch for the premier league that drainage channels were installed in that retaining wall and were checked as working under the work done pre season, The pitch on the final day of that season was as good as the first game, The drainage now looks very good it is the rest of maintaining a quality pitch we lack
     
  15. Tyersalbantam

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    I’m no expert but I would have thought laying turf would be a better option than seeding.
    Very pricey I would expect but it already has an established root system
     
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    ………...and we have a specialist company right on our doorstep to sort it out - STRI Bingley
     
  17. Plastic Bantam

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    When the correct amount of money is spent on it throughout the season the pitch will be fine after spending money on the drainage. It proved last season to be the case. However we've not done that this season and just accepted it.. It's amateurish
     
  18. Allotment Bantam

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    We do have 2 but they don't stretch right across the pitch even put together. At least 1 of them is sponsored by Shipley Bantams.
     
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    They were involved in the last renovations I thought.
     
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  20. Faithful Bantam

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    Sounds like somewhere one might venture for treatment of, ahem, 'social diseases'.
     
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