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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ozbantam, May 12, 2022.

  1. trevor

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    Anyone using Cubase? I have a problem assigning Midi, PM me if you can help
     
  2. Fuzzy

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    Nope, Ableton. Just general stuff which you're probably already doing e.g. make sure drivers are up to date, check your leads and make sure that you've got your in's/out's/thru's in order and if you're using DIN leads not USB then make sure you're not losing information by trying to do something like pass a 7 pin output through a 5 pin lead.

    Good luck, it's always a pain in the arse when that stuff doesn't work.
     
  3. Offcomedun

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    I use Cubase. But never done any midi stuff I'm afraid.
    All my stuff is done with proper instruments ;)
     
  4. trevor

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    I usually record audio only with no problems but decided to play around with midi sounds, The problem am having is that when I assign a sound to a track it goes to all the tracks instead of the one designated to, I know am making a simple mistake somewhere but is driving me mad. :mad:
     
  5. Offcomedun

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    Have you looked in the Help menu to see if you can find instructions for the correct process?
    Failing that, try Googling something like 'Cubase - midi assigning to all tracks instead of just one'. You can be certain that someone will have had the same problem/made the same error and there'll likely be a forum that answers your question.
     
  6. trevor

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    Thanks, Yes will give your suggestions a try,
     
  7. River_City_Bantam

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    Well, ... get some rotten tomatoes in, practice your booing and snide remarks -- he calls that music / he thinks he's a bassist -- just in case. There's a chance, probably small but still a chance, that tomorrow's set by my band will end up on Youtube or Facebook afterwards.

    Our lead backing vocalist is also a member of a chamber choir, Musicata, in Hamilton, and she's co-organised and co-hosting a 40th anniversary fundraiser for the choir tomorrow (Saturday). Today had our slot for dress rehearsal. So what happens?

    First off, before setting off I had to go shopping. Get in the car, drive off, and after a few seconds the driver's side mirror falls off! Sorry Nick Lowe, but I did not love to hear the sound of breaking glass in this instance! The glass simply separated from the backing. Get home and improvise a repair with an old make-up mirror, some epoxy glue, and gaffer tape. Head off for rehearsal now 30 minutes later than desired, but at least with a functioning mirror.

    Get to the venue, bring in my gear, including a rack case with my bass head and stuff, and wonder -- I see a Vox AC10 here -- cool, someone in another band also has that amp -- where's my bass cab? We've been rehearsing in another band-member's basement, the cab lives there as a result, and he was supposed to bring it with him. Cue sheepish grins...Your cab?...It's over there....Where? There! But, but... Yes, he'd brought my guitar amp instead of the bass cab! Arrghh! Thankfully there was a bass combo there that I could use -- but it's not the same as my rig. And I want - prefer - the sound of my rig! Growl!!

    And then, someone's dog wanders in and around. Cats I like; cats I get along with; dogs I don't. And they can sense it. Sorry, dog people.

    So, as we start our rehearsal we have one bassist who could not in any way be described as gruntled. End result is me hitting a wrong note on the first note of the first song! Was supposed to be a slide down to an A, and I hit the B instead!. And there is just no way that that note works at that point in the song, and no way to improvise some sort of flourish to get onto the A. I suppose it's an even worse clanger because I wrote the song, words AND music! Start again... Thankfully, things then went well. Not quite 'poor dress, good show' but perhaps still enough screw-ups so far to lead to a smoothly-running show!

    And I will just use the bass combo that's there, to save having to set the levels all over again right before the set. It sounds good. (It's one of the smaller Hartke's.)

    I suppose I should mention that we're called 'On Borrowed Time'. Not just because that movie is one of the lead vocalist's favourites, but also because we the senior and permanent members of the band have all been close enough to death to be now on first-name terms with the Grim Reaper. Yorkshire black humour at its finest!

    RCB
     
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    Please can someone translate this thread. I can't speak music :(. But very jealous of those who can.

    I remember a music lesson at school - musical dictation! The teacher played something on the piano and you had to write the notes down. It was an absolute total mystery to me...and still is
     
  9. River_City_Bantam

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    It's about tomato season isn't it? Get yer rotten ones ready!

    After a long time I have found a recording of the fundraiser we played at back in April -- an unedited and unproduced raw recording of the live stream of the whole 8-hour day. And boy is it raw -- it sounds like a lot of the bootlegs one used to buy back in the day! The vocals are almost inaudible, the piano unfortunately isn't -- the pianist admitted to playing the wrong song at one point! Drums & bass & guitar are alright though. I must say it sounded alright live; on stage one couldn't hear the piano, and the vocals were clear. Strange how the sound carried, or not, in that space.

    bass: J. Tamm / drums: D. Jones / guitar: O. Alders / vocals: R. Tratch / backing vocals: B. Kittle, P. Marques

    Jump ahead to 3:48:50 to get our set: (all songs copyrighted by the composers)

    3:48:50 Beautiful Disasters (words & music J. Tamm)
    3:53:13 Sunlight Fades (words R. Tratch, music P. Marques & J. Tamm)
    3:55:40 Waltz of the Dead Flowers (words R. Tratch, music J. Tamm)
    3:58:40 13 Steps (words J. Tamm, music S. McNab)
    4:02:10 Rise (words R. Tratch, music J. Tamm)

    4:05:30 the end, unless you want to watch me packing up my bass and pedalboard...



    It was fun, and way to just get out and play in front of people again. Our aim though is to be recording the material properly come the autumn, as opposed to playing out.

    RCB
     
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  10. Ozbantam

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    RCB good on you mate for getting out and doing your thing! Thoroughly enjoyed it and the backdrop is awesome. Shame that vocals are basically non existent in the mix which is quite common in with live recordings, but would love to hear some of those tracked laid down in the studio. Where are you planning to record? Tape? Digital? Where is your band located and do you play live much?

    I don't play much these days and boy do i miss it and envy those who do. What you can do after recording in the studio is use footage from live gigs or shows (get a couple angles) and syncopate/cut/edit and you then have a film clip to go with it. Here's something I did for my band over 10 years ago with minimal editing experience and basically not knowing what I was doing.
     
  11. River_City_Bantam

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    Cheers! Yes, the lyrics are vital to this project, so it is a real pity they don't come through. We had no control over that, didn't even know it was being recorded from that height and angle. I just remember one of the church people recording from the floor, but she hasn't posted anything yet. That might sound better. It was the usual charity do -- a lot of enthusiastic amateurs and a very friendly uncritical audience; a nice way to try out some of our songs live. It's nice to have a record of a very early stage in the project.

    We're based in Hamilton, Ontario, though I live some 25 miles away in one direction, and the guitarist about the same in the other! Right now we're bashing the 14 songs in this project into shape for recording in the autumn -- a lot of re-arranging, cutting, and so on. It'll be a concept album based on Norse mythology: Ragnarok, and the death and rebirth of the god Baldur. Sounds like Nordic death-metal territory, but in our hands it will be Joy Division meets musical theatre. We haven't contracted with a studio yet, though we have several options. We're all analog types, who also appreciate digital, so I don't know yet which way we'll go.

    We aren't really playing out at the moment; real life gets in the way, and we do want to get the recording started. Other problems live are that all the songs have keyboards, and I've got at least 2 guitar lines going on in the songs, not to mention the occasional solo. Live we need more players. We're hoping the one backing vocalist (BK) will be able to take on the keyboard parts live -- it'll give him something more to do!

    I liked your video. I've got the Rockpalast show playing as I type this -- I'm enjoying it. I suppose you're on it? That must have been a nice experience.

    RCB
     
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    Go on tell us which is you and what era was it :unsure:.
     
  13. Ozbantam

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    Sounds like you guys have got some serious plans. Please keep me updated on how it goes mate. Looking forward to how it brushes up in the studio. Shame you are miles away, should you ever decide to head to Oz would be happy to have a couple beers and put you onto a touring company or band bookers up the east coast. What axe are you playing and set up do you have? Can't seem to make it out on the video. I'm an analog man to tape through and through. Having recorded digital with tons of different outboard gear (compressors and other funny devices the average drummer like myself isn't familiar with) and analog, I find that modern digital technology is getting better but can't produce the warmth of an old school recording. Just need deep pockets to go to tape and to be well rehearsed.
     
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    I'm on the skins mate. When was it? Circa 2010 I think. Seems like an age. What are you getting at old fella?
     
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    Not getting at anything @Ozbantam@Ozbantam it very much reminded me of bands around in the late 60s early 70s IMO the golden era of music.
     
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    That's what we did, just probably just 40 years too late. 3 albums later soon realised this was the case and packed it in. However it took me to some places I thought I'd never see and got to share the stage and meet some of those idols of mine from that golden era.
     
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    Ambitious project. Sounded quite 70s prog to me. Shame about the virtually nonexistent vocals and the drums too loud. Live recording is a bit of a lottery, although my band have had reasonable success with just a handheld Zoom recorder in the past, and then tarted the sound up a bit afterwards in a DAW. Good luck with the studio recording.
     
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    Enjoyed that a lot. Multiple influences from the 60s & 70s on show there. Shame you aren't still doing it.
     
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    I'm in the middle of producing a band project in Cubase at the moment. An original song written by our singer. Everyone has recorded and sent me their parts separately and I'm putting it together and mixing it. As inevitably happens, when you're each coming up with parts without being in a room together, everyone overplays, so it's a mammoth task to edit it so that it doesn't sound like the kitchen sink being thrown at the wall. It's taken me squillions of hours to get it into shape and that's before I've EQ-ed it, added any reverb etc and properly mixed it. I've now heard it so often that I feel like I'm singing it in my sleep! I think it will be worth the effort though. When it's finished I'll post it on here for your appraisal, although I don't know if you can post sound-only files on here.
    In the meantime, here's one I did earlier:

     
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    Thanks for the offer -- who knows where this project will go?

    I'm a Fender guy when it comes to guitars: made in Mexico Precision and Telecaster. The bass normally runs through a Gallien-Krueger 700RB into a G-K Neo115 III, but for that set I had to use what was there, a small Hartke combo. I've also got a Yorkville BC115 bass cab at home, which is nice but isn't capable of using the bi-amp feature of the G-K amp, where there is a separate amp for high frequencies and you can control the woofer and tweeter settings independently. Compressor, delays, reverbs, and a rotary speaker emulator on the pedalboard; there's more, as it's for my guitar, but those are the ones I use on the bass.

    Agree about the warmth and imprecision even of analog. I was watching an interview with John Foxx the other day where he was talking about that in terms of the synths and stuff he uses in his current work with Benge -- digital forbidden with the exception of a Yamaha DX7!

    Does the name Red Lorry Yellow Lorry mean anything to you?

    RCB
     
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