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I like the way we've acted decisively and ruthlessly. T&S not yet ready for a promotion pushing side, we've made the call and gone out and seemingly got the man we want within 48 hours of the season ending.

Fair play. Its massive summer and we can't afford to dick about.

 

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Ouch!! As a politician once said about an opposition member 'that is like being savaged by a dead sheep'

 

People were quoting Man City’s stats against Leeds yesterday as an argument that performances don’t matter. It’s nonsense Man City are top of the league by a mile because of stats like that week in week out, of course even if you play well every week you won’t win every game that’s football. But as we saw in McCalls second spell in his second season and with Bowyer, eventually if you play poor every week it catches up with you. We simply need to improve, not sure why some are so defensive about it, it’s something we need to do to improve and go for promotion be it this season or next. We can’t rely on luck every week and making minimum of chances.

 

You ever going to back this 5 years statement up or give reasons why?

Bolton were in worse trouble than us and seem to be heading to div 1.

Even Wigan might stay up.

So Rupp, Sparks can’t improve the club. We can’t afford to improve off the pitch. Look at a training ground? Buy VP? Build another stadium? Build a decent squad? Get out of div 2.

We you going to factor COVID times into all this?

Sorry but the mistakes Rhodes made with his poor management appointments and basically doing nothing to improve the club off the pitch, Rupp taking his eye of the ball are more costly than Edin.

We have turned in to a 2021 nothing club. Teams not even scared of us in div 2. The likes of Luton overtaking us. It’s a joke! Club is a failure and that’s not on Edin.

 

We need to be more bullish and streetwise. That early elbow from Wright last night, the players and managers should have been giving the officials hell and exerting pressure. You need to impose yourself on games in every aspect. We're far too passive.

 

Surely, no club 'belongs' anywhere, their performances and results dictate their league position and ultimately where they stand in the football pyramid. Yes, some clubs have long histories in particular leagues or competitions, but they're built on season on season of successes.

I bet if you calculated in which league City had spent the longest period across their history. It wouldn't be in the top two leagues.

That doesn't mean that supporters shouldn't want to see better and hope to find them competing in a higher league than they currently are. I've never met a City fan (or an active supporter of any club) that doesn't want to see their club competing in the highest possible league that they can. This belief that City fans settle for lower league football and are scared of something superior is BS. The number of supporters who attend or want to attend games when the club is doing well disproves your belief that City fans are content with underachievement. Nothing succeeds like success and if these mythical misanthropes stay away if/when the club does better, there'll be plenty of people who'll want to take their place.

 

Another performance and result that draws too many parallels with Bowyer and last season.

You will not achieve automatic promotion playing cautious, scared and boring football at any level. There is also no way fans will tolerate going a goal down before throwing caution to the wind in successive must win games.

Everything we do going forwards is made up on the spot, the football is dire, the players can't pass and now we're back to having a leaky defence.

If we take away the sentiment and good will that T&S have saved us from relegation, I'm not seeing anything that suggests that they will get us playing like a promotion chasing side needs to.

People need to remember that you can't have the same approach to a promotion push as you would a relegation battle. T&S have failed to adapt their approach in what was a free hit for them to get in the playoffs. If they won't change and have a go when there's little pressure on them to achieve, what makes people think they'll do it when the crowds are back in and the pressure is also on from above to achieve a top 3 finish?

 

Sparks wants success, that is clear from his continual correspondance. Question is how badly does our current owner want it? Because thats why clubs like Forest Green, Salford, Fleetwood and even Harrogate are now our equal and in some cases even better. Owner like Andy Pilley, Dale Vince, Gary Neville etc all have one thing in common. A ruthlessness and desire to be successful. If our owner doesn't have this ambition and vision then we're just pissing in the wind no matter what statements Sparks puts out.

 

The winning run wasn't as convincing in terms of performance levels as results suggested.

We need better than T&S.

 

The xG tells its own story. Our winning run was never going to be sustainable.

credit to them for producing an instant turnaround and galvanizing the group.

things were going well until all the abandonments and postponements.

we’ve had some bad results though. Capitulating late in Cardiff. Gubbed on that windy day in Cumbria. Now three defeats in a row.

their safety first approach was superb in stopping the rot but it leaves us vulnerable if we ever slip behind, which is becoming all too frequent an event now the defensive solidness has gone.

we do need a new GK and RB badly but, at the same time, I think we also need a new manager

 

And now, with the playoffs pretty much dead, and as a result of fan opinion, they play a more expansive 442.....

Deary me.

 

Mate, he was here for 3 months. Chesterfield were interested in him in Jan when we signed him.

Rowe isn't 2 years old. He understands football and COMPETITION! He didn't just leave because Chesterfield offered him a 3 year deal. He left because he clearly didn't believe in the set up here.

 

You brain doesn’t get the Hurst thing does it.

When T & S took over Bradford City were in a false position. We finished 9th last season. Grimsby were a bottom half team. Whoever took over from McCall be it Hurst or you would have kept Bradford City up.

We now should be looking/planning to get a manager who will give us the best opportunity to get us out of this league.

We’re not a CHARITY!! Waiting about to clap someone!

The best thing for the club is for T & S to go back to their old roles.

 

They weren't solely PE teachers though were they? And certainly not once they started rising through the NL tier system
You're believing the romantic spin the newspapers have put on it.

The year prior to being appointed at Lincoln, Cowley was at Braintree in the National league and finished in their highest ever position of 3rd, only to lose out Grimsby in the play offs.

Lincoln at that time were also in the National league so it wasn't even a jump up a division. Couple that with a few promotions on their CV's and you can see why Lincoln moved for them.

 

I thought there'd been some good debate both for and against you'll get the same posters going ott but the majority have given their reasons why they would keep T&S and vice versa.
My worry is that after a great run achieving league safety they cant buy a win but not merely are we not getting results were creating little going forward, they have a preferred system and more players (their signings) to strengthen that original squad McCall left yet resently we look lost, but more to the point Mark has then done his post match interview and made comment that just weren't what we fans were seeing, the Tranmere post match interview being the worst so far, dominated the game, created chances, if we continue to play like we did we will win more games than we lose, that's gone well.
I don't envy Ryan's job it's a big call as has been posted no guaretees with any manager if that's the way he goes if he sticks with T&S they do have to get the team off to a good start, after what fans have been through in the last 14 months I feel a poor start will not be tolerated by the fans.

 

I can’t imagine Cheltenham etc have this huge investment. The expectation of the fans is big but the club are unable to go toe to toe with the likes of morecambe. Poor decisions at the top.

 

Like him or not appointing Parky as manager would be a huge boost to season ticket sales,

 

Why slaughter? Thats a fair summary of what those clubs are doing to try and climb or stay up the football league ladder. You mention Cardiff and and their true level and i think thats the same with us. In reality we are club that flirts with league 1 and 2 and light years away from the championship. We have a reluctant owner with no real vision for the club and thats where our problems lie. What is the long term future for this club? Are we there just to supply dirt cheap football to the inhabitants of a run down dying old City? Phil Parkinson gave this club its connection with the City back and thats now gone. We've a CEO who talks the talk but an owner whos not really interested in walking the walk. And until that changes we're just treading league 2 water. Not something that interests me as a viable long supporter of this club.

 

A lot of very good comments on here about going forward, from snippets I hear I am expecting the 'vision' is going to start becoming clearer in the week ahead - hang in there City fans because its going to be a very busy summer!

I know the club have said nothing will be decided until the season is over but I understand that is only when it will be made public - a LOT is going on behind the scenes. Whether this also involves the Coaching duo I think we know more by mid week.

Ryan wants to give this a real shot and knows if they bodge next season his own position with City will become untenable, but he is ambitious so it might equally be a case of us not meeting his own visions - I just hope the club are brave and do what gives us the best chance of success and not what might keep up our homely image (ex players in key positions withing the club, ex players becoming new players again etc)