UK Politics

Labour’s problem is they have a wide spectrum of members all of who believe they are right. One side of the party gets in power and the other wing refuse to support them and complain publicly about the policies. They then work against the leader until they quit and are then replaced by someone from the other wing. The history then repeats it self. Each time it flips the voters at either end go elsewhere.

 

Your right but it is their own fault for in effect allowing a party within a party to operate from within its ranks

 

but which is the north within a party, the left wing side not currently in power or the more centralist wing currently in power

 

I voted green in my local elections. would rather shit in my hands and clap than join the conservatives lol

 

both sides keep doing it to each other and until they learn from the tories about how to present a united front, they wont get anywhere near government. the left of the party needs to realise singing the red flag and calling people comrade and that turns the average person off in a massive way, whilst the right need to remember they belong to the labour party and recognise they dont need to stamp the left out at every opportunity, because the right on their own get spanked just like the left of the party. Its one of the reasons starmer has disappointed me so much, I did think he might be the guy to do it and unite everyone.

 

They're completely out of touch with the day to day concerns of the working classes. They've become obsessed with in fighting and virtue signalling woke warriorism.

 

Quite funny how the usual suspects on social media doubled down on their mantra after Labour's terrible results. Even now they cry the same take and churn out the same rhetoric, buzzwords like gammon and racist, Brexit gets a mention every other paragraph. When will they realise what most peoples priorities are, employment in a pandemic era, a better health and education service, better funding of the justice system rather than everyone on the side of the criminals because despite all the shite posted on social media or the crap spouted by political commentators about institutionalised this and that, this country is still a great place to live and work. Compared to other countries the vast majority of us still live by good moral core values. Now there's a clue for you Labour, concentrate on what really matters to people. If you really are serious about getting into power.

 

Spot on. The noisy minority that dominate on social media platforms are misleading Labour (and others) as to what people genuinely care most passionately about. And the irony is, as you say, its convincing members of their party that the problem isn't that they're going after the wrong things, its that they're not going after them hard enough! As if they can't possibly focus on employment, health care, key social and criminal justice issues until we've nailed the right for 5 year olds to determine the non binary use of gender pronouns that we all need to use.

 

You want to know why people vote Conservative, the above is your answer. It doesn't matter how much the likes O'Brien, Jones, Ash Sarkar, the weird EU bloke out side westminster with a loudhailer and the many more like them shout and stomp their feet, i can guarantee you the vast majority of people in this country, the same sort of people like you and me on here, do not share the same views. The very same people who genuinely care about each other without getting down on one knee in some sort of virtual signalling gesture, the sort who abhor violence whether it be against women, men, emergency services and the like.
I mentioned on here some time back that Labour were just as responsible for the problems people were having a go at the tories for. And do you know what? I was damn right. I don't vote, haven't done since i was 18, and the once for brexit. But if i was made to choose between the only two real options i would vote conservative every time. Because labour are a joke.

 

You want to know why people vote Conservative, the above is your answer. It doesn't matter how much the likes O'Brien, Jones, Ash Sarkar, the weird EU bloke out side westminster with a loudhailer and the many more like them shout and stomp their feet, i can guarantee you the vast majority of people in this country, the same sort of people like you and me on here, do not share the same views. The very same people who genuinely care about each other without getting down on one knee in some sort of virtual signalling gesture, the sort who abhor violence whether it be against women, men, emergency services and the like.
I mentioned on here some time back that Labour were just as responsible for the problems people were having a go at the tories for. And do you know what? I was damn right. I don't vote, haven't done since i was 18, and the once for brexit. But if i was made to choose between the only two real options i would vote conservative every time. Because labour are a joke.

 

Said with a passion I think we all share...

 

Labour reshuffle today...!!

Have they got enough MP's to choose from..?

 

Keir currently pandering to the working mans main concerns, Palestine.....

 

Here's why you are a loser Starmer...

 

is a bell end

 

Having just watched PMQ's I wish someone could stand up to the thickest leader of the opposition since the last one that fans are NOT booing the players whether they be black, white or yellow, they are booing the gesture, sickening to see the government threatening our freedom to boo at whatever...