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  1. Bigrod

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    So do you have one in the States G?
     
    #49 Bigrod, Feb 19, 2021
  2. trevor

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    By the end of the season City could be around £100k better off with away iFollow money, In a normal season that would be very very little if anything
     
    #50 trevor, Feb 19, 2021
  3. Ulysses S Grant

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    If they gave me an option of £199 for a season ticket and the same again for an away Ifollow ticket (to include an away cup matches) I would snap their hands off.
     
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    #51 Ulysses S Grant, Feb 19, 2021
  4. Mike Hunt

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    If I went to every home game, season ticket and travel would set me back £800 before any food or drink. Give me a home ST with iFollow for £400 or even £500 I’d do it. That’s £500 they’re not getting without the iFollow offer. I’d still go to local away games and home games when I could.
     
    #52 Mike Hunt, Feb 19, 2021
  5. trevor

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    If they did ifollow for games instead of 26 boots on the ground if marketed right could have hundreds on iFollow, Times have changed and covid has accelerated it, Those that fail to embrace it will rightly wither
     
    #61 trevor, Feb 20, 2021
  6. SimonW

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    Why should they be the ones who are moving to accommodate you? Saturday at 3PM is more of a prime spot whereas Sundays are often overloaded with TV sporting offerings. Also your players are professionals that even at this level get paid ridiculous amounts, go even into the National league proper and some of those clubs are semi-pro meaning you have part-time players, let alone below that level. Asking a pro to change his weekly schedule is much less of an issue that asking someone who isn't full time.

    Even then it also needs to be fairer at EFL level and the EFL have to also help non-league. For iFollow season tickets (which would only be home games) see the club keep 60% of the income, 30% goes into a central pot that's distributed across all the teams in the league and the final 10% goes into a grassroots fund that can be distributed to the non-leagues. And for tickets sold on the day have the same split no matter what team sells the ticket. 60% to home side, 30% to away side and 10% into a non-league fund.

    And equally, if the PL then joined in and started doing something where all tv rights in the UK were sold then a percentage of that would go into the EFL funds to distribute evenly between teams in each division (and maybe a smaller percentage than the EFL's take could go from the PL pot into the grassroots fund)
     
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    #62 SimonW, Feb 20, 2021
  7. SimonW

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    You have missed my point though. It's about the casual fans who goto lower league football because they can't watch their club. I've used this example before but I spent most of my school life living in Farnborough in Hampshire. Not only is it a London commuter town but its next to Aldershot which call's itself the home of the British Army and is surrounded by other important military areas so what you have is a town of people who have ties all over the country and as such football allegiances all over the country. While there were obviously alot of London club fans and it made going to their clubs matches more viable you had myself a Man Utd fan who couldn't just pop up for a match (especially as my Dad would often be working Saturdays) and my friend group included a couple of Liverpool fans, a Rangers fan, a Leeds fan, a Newcastle fan and a forest fan outside those who supported London clubs. So we couldn't just head off and watch the clubs we supported, if we wanted to watch football on a Saturday afternoon our options were Farnborough Town, Cove, Aldershot or if we jumped on a train perhaps Basingstoke or Guildford. We would generally end up at Farnborough as the highest level team of those options at the time. Between us, especially as sometimes parents would attend with us they were probally getting anywhere from £1000 to £2000 a season from us as a group which if we could have paid to stream any match we wanted they wouldn't have got.

    Clubs will keep their hardcore fans who will most likely goto the ground and or at least pay to stream but its those casual fans who pay on the gate and buy refreshments that they lose out on and thats important
     
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    #65 SimonW, Feb 20, 2021
  8. Ulysses S Grant

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    Fair comment, I guess that out of the circles I move in there must be a fair few casual football fans who attend local matches. When my dad was in the army at Aldershot he did used to go there, despite being a die hard City fan.
     
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    #66 Ulysses S Grant, Feb 20, 2021
  9. Loyalbantam

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    Without reading 4 pages, has anyone mentioned that ifollow won’t be allowed in the UK after Covid for Saturday 3pm games.
    Therefore no point including it in season ticket.
     
    #67 Loyalbantam, Feb 20, 2021
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    I think posters on here are vastly overestimating the appeal of lower league football, it's largely shit. As we see from the ifollow figures this season it is difficult to even get the hardcore to pay to watch it when we're locked down, making it a permanent offer is not going to lead to a bigger audience, though dedicated fans may watch a few more away games at the right price.
     
    #68 Parader, Feb 20, 2021
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    Offering ifollow as a routine service will cut the away attendance dramatically. It’s a bad idea and shouldn’t even be given light of day.
     
    #69 Loyalbantam, Feb 20, 2021
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    If you read the pages you will see it is a discussion of the EFL getting the rules changed so it is allowed. There is nothing to stop the rules being changed as has been shown currently
     
    #70 Storck, Feb 20, 2021
  13. Loyalbantam

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    Well changing the rules to allow live streaming of every game when fans are allowed will harm the game even more in my opinion.
     
    #71 Loyalbantam, Feb 20, 2021
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    Several posters on this thread have mentioned how difficult it is to get home after work and then get to VP in time for a midweek kick off. Just go straight from work. Fish and chips from Peel Park chippie in the car. Sorted
     
    #73 ahar964, Feb 21, 2021
  15. Petrov

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    That is one option but midweek games were already available on ifollow prior to this season anyway so not really a problem.
     
    #74 Petrov, Feb 21, 2021
  16. ahar964

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    Yeah it was just a general comment really. I could just about get home and then get to the match in time for kick off but my way is much less rushed. Unless I am away, I have never been tempted to watch a midweek home game on ifollow
     
    #76 ahar964, Feb 21, 2021
  17. Loyalbantam

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    Maybe it should only be offered where the away allocation of tickets is sold out
     
    #77 Loyalbantam, Feb 21, 2021
  18. Loyalbantam

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    If you believe that attendances would be unaffected then ask yourself why Saturday 3pm games are not shown live? Have you seen the dip in midweek attendances at VP when CL or internationals are on TV ? You are the exception but for many it will simply take away the desire to travel to away games, midweek home games etc etc. If it happens then it needs to be limited rather than just being widely available. If travel time is the barrier rather than cost then maybe away games can be exclusively streamed back to VP in the banqueting suites combined with buying a meal.
     
    #79 Loyalbantam, Feb 21, 2021
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    No, in todays world with modern technology why shouldn't people be able to view a game live if their circumstances dictate they can't get to game they would normally go to. Or they live to far away, say in another country. There may have to be something put in place so you can't just buy one viewing pass and everyone is able to see it, could be difficult when its coing through a TV. Maybe way in the future its the one pass for one virtual headset where only one individual can view an individual pass. I dunno, its a tough call but we live in a world where technology allows this to become reality.
     
    #80 Rogered Tart, Feb 21, 2021
  20. Loyalbantam

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    You are channeling ‘normal’ life in a direction which we’ve experienced in the last year where people don’t have to leave their front rooms. It’s bullshit and should not become the norm.
     
    #81 Loyalbantam, Feb 21, 2021
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