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I'm a republican mate and I do find that inaccurate. I don't see myself as anyone's subject and whilst it's sad someone died, that for me is where it ends. So that's one of the entitled youth of today that's proven you wrong

 

I lived in a different generation, believe me there is an entitlement with the youth of today that didnt exist 20 to 30 years ago. Not every youth, that would be factually incorrect but a hell of a lot of them.

 

Some mate but we've had a big old discussion recently about generalising people like this based on perception/what we read and see. That would be like me saying the racist generation of yester year when that blatantly isn't fair

 

It's only something you can really judge through being an old git like myself. As a generalisation (and not picking on perticular individual cases) there is less of a work ethic amongst the young to what there was 30 years ago. I'd expect my parents generation might says the same to me. Me generalising doesn't mean everyone because that's clearly not the case but I think with the decimation of industry has changed a generation. Only my opinion though, there may well be others of my age who think differently. Just an observation while getting older.

 

I think to be fair mate you have to work a hell of a lot harder now to even get a job than you did 30 years ago. My old man regales me with tales of how he would frequently work drunk in the 80s and get in no trouble whatsoever, because almost everyone else was too. Would never happen today. You could also then pretty much walk straight into another job if you left one back then, now there's 200 people going for jobs at Tescos. It is way more competitive and dog eat dog now than it was imo, because back then manufacturing and factory jobs were dominant which are usually team roles that require everyone to work well collectively, as opposed to office roles where the guy on your team is now your competition. I respect your opinion mate but I do probably unsurprisingly disagree haha.

 

Then why do the royal family even exist then? Kind of just exemplifies my point as to how anachronistic they are in the modern age. Myth or not, that some people by birth are privileged beyond belief (which on its own isn't the issue), and that we should all support them and glad hand them for being so is a subject mentality to me, regardless of what my passport says Dennis.

I would like to clarify also if people want to support the royals and such they are entirely welcome to, but not for me thanks.

 

The old bootstraps theory that doesn't apply anymore, if it ever did. @YungNath has given you a very good example of the job scene today.

Young people are working harder and longer hours than ever because they have to, otherwise they'll go under and have to give up their life and move back home. It's not recent either, 15 years of this shit.

Stop punching down, start punching up. It's in all our interests.

 

Do people actually believe this?

Can't remember the last time I saw a chimney sweep?

 

Your dad has weird memories, In the 80s I never saw anyone working drunk, Maybe like now a Monday morning hangover but with mass unemployment you could be replaced the same day by an employer if you did not perform or was off sick,
As for jobs in the 80s we had over 3 million unemployed nearly double what it is today, 200 for every job was the normal and not unusual for it to be far higher with reports of up to a thousand applications, The truth is you never had it so good

 

You are of course right but she still has to approve and appoint the Prime Minister and he must report to her weekly, Mostly her duties are ceremonial but they are still enshrined in our Laws and of course she is head of the armed forces through the government of the day, The Royal family gave up political control in exchange for the guaranteed existence of the Royal family and keeping the Royal estates and financial support and to continue as head of state,

 

Well I've clearly said that isn't how I think of myself so I don't understand why you're saying that to me?

I understand the differences and I still think the monarchy is pointless and anachronistic. There has also been a few bits come out recently that show the monarch has more power than people previously thought.

 

Literally all of his mates have told me the same or similar. no trev, people from about 1990-2008 never had it so good. the financial crash fecked it for the rest of us and we have been backsliding by almost every conceivable metric ever since

 

Untortunatly if you bought before the finacial crash you paid top $ as I know from purchasing the bungalow next door for my daughter, if you're trying to get on the property ladder post the financial crash you have to have a large deposit, but we are seeing mortgage lenders giving mortgages at less than a 10% deposit, unfortunatly house prices are once more going through the roof post brexit/covid.