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Pressure on Adams now

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, Sep 21, 2021.

  1. Tight1-0Victory

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    The poor short term form and the injuries to nearly all our forwards are a bit of a concern but can be rectified in time

    What I don't get is Sparks putting something in place at the club that will benefit the club long term which is a head of recruitment and then getting rid of it the second a manager isn't keen on the outcomes

    The head of recruitment position isn't about pleasing the head coach by giving him everything he desires it's about continuity in the long term and making sure Bradford City are in a stronger position when the current gaffer leaves

    If Turnbull wasn't the man why was he appointed and furthermore when is the replacement getting recruited and how long will they be here for

    Very worrying signs under Sparks that everything is super short term easy come easy go hero today fired tomorrow

    That's no way to run any business

    Problems on the pitch right now are dwarfed by those off it in my opinion too many weak characters at the top of the club at this rate they might as well make Adams the acting Chief Executive as well as Head Coach
     
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  2. Parader

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    We certainly need more football knowledge in the building away from the operation of the first team.

    My concern is who has the appropriate knowledge and experience to make the right appointments - lets be honest Turnbull only came in as he had worked with McCall at Scunthorpe, that was the link. Sparks has no background in football, nor does anyone else in a senior position.

    As much as I dislike the use of consultants in most walks of life, given that lack of football experience, City really could do with someone with sufficient knowledge of the game to come in and identify what is needed in terms of structure, roles and knowledge, skills and experience to enable the club to operate properly and professionally, not just at the whim of whoever happens to be in the dugout.
     
  3. cumbriared

    cumbriared Youngster

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    Ever thought that the budget of £2.7m is something that the manager can't handle having never previously worked with such a figure. He got Morecambe promoted on less than half that last season. Maybe the club is paying its players too much and that they are not that hungry enough to want to test themselves in a higher league being more than happy to pick up their monthly 'fat' pay check. A complete clear out from top to bottom is needed but that will not happen until the close season, assuming that the current manager is still in place. Adams builds teams on players with hunger and a desire to win. I see very little of that in the current over payed crop of misfits.
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    It isn't anything to do with lack of desire or hunger, it's simply we don't have the players in key positions due to a mismanaged transfer window and a number of injuries. I'm pretty sure our budget is a lot closer to £2 million, it's one of the reasons we are limited in who we can bring in. This whole scenario now in the local press and on social media has been brought about by our inability to replace an injury prone Lee Angol and doesn't show well on the people running the club.
     
  5. Idlebantam

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    No idea where you get the idea that we have a squad of players short of hunger and desire
     
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  6. cumbriared

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    Adams has brought success to every club with a budget far less than the £2m mentioned. Last season his team got promoted with players not wanted at other clubs and without spending a single penny on players. Money most certainly doesn't guarantee success. I still maintain that it's a lack of desire in an over payed squad that is the root of the problem and until there is a complete clear out EFL2 will remain the club's home for many seasons to come.
     
  7. Bronco

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    Has this "lack if desire" from the players only happend since the Orient defeat, as until that poor display everything was going well.
     
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  8. Mike Hunt

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    I think the budget is a lot less than £2.7m, I think it was that last year and it’s been cut.
    It’s not just a matter of over paying, you’re not getting quality if you don’t pay, that’s obvious. What is a problem is that for years City have been incapable of spending good budgets well. It’s unrealistic to expect every signing to be a hit, but in at least the last half dozen transfer windows there has been far too much money wasted on absolute rubbish. Lack of money isn’t the issues, spending it badly is.
     
  9. Petrov

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    Which of the players are over paid in your opinion? I'm guessing Evans may be on a lot more than he is worth, but other than that, who else, given that we got rid of the last of the inflated wages from the Edin era this summer?
     
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  10. Petrov

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    This 100%. I doubt the likes of Lavery, Kelleher and Robinson will be on mega bucks, but could we have got more bang for our buck elsewhere? Absolutely.
     
  11. Rogered Tart

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    I'll leave it like this, money doesn't bring success. But it gives a you better chance of getting it than if you havent got it. Otherwise clubs would just spend as much as Morecambe. And it's nothing to do with desire, we're only 8 games into the season. I'll guarantee you every player on that pitch wants to succeed, just sometimes you lack the vital ingredients.
     
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  12. Mike Hunt

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    That’s one of the points I don’t get about the cliche of hungry young players wanting to succeed. Almost all of them want to do well, but you need some talent to begin with.
     
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  13. trevor

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    The budget will be less than £2 million is my guess as most of the previous high earners are off the books,
     
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    Oh goody....another whole new team for next season. That'll work......:rolleyes:
     
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  15. hornseabantam

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    Agree. If we're in the top seven mix come January, which I think we will be, promotion/play offs will only be achieved by three or four key signings. We should all be aware of how recruitment occurs - Turnbull will have identified 5/6 players at least for each position Adams was looking at in the Summer. For many and various reasons to do with money, length of contracts, players not wanting to uproot from hundreds of miles away, first and second choices will have gone quite quickly. No disrespect to Theo Robinson, but I would guess he would have been a long way down the potential choices, but that's what we got. Ergo, Adams not happy at all with Turnbull because we ended up in the last chance saloon. Let's see what comes in early October with the new Recruitment Policy/Appointments.
     
  16. hornseabantam

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    And credit to you, General.
     
  17. Idlebantam

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    Cunbriared is a Morecambe fan, so has no idea about overpaid players or players lacking desire
     
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  18. Briggus

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    Given that eisa, angol, lavery, robinson and vernam are all injured and not available for Crawley then questions have to asked about who Sparks recruited in the fitness area too?
     
  19. hornseabantam

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    cumbriared do you know any L2 footballers? The nature of their reality is that they're constantly trying to impress as best they can, because they live in a world of huge competition, short not particularly lucrative contracts and are desperate to stay in the first team, if not the first eighteen, to keep their careers going. They may have off days and drops in confidence, but believe me, it's extremely rare that they're lazy.
     
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    Every player wants to succeed, but as you say we live in a world of clichés. The players don't go out on the field to deliberately not win or not score, sometimes its out of their hands. Other clichés that get wheeled out, they're not fit enough, hungry enough, showing enough desire, players injured because of something the club is doing wrong, there's loads more. Football is a game of fine margins, like on Saturday Barrow score with a fine finish but Vernam had a similar chance before that scraped the post. What I as a fan am cheesed off about is you could see where we were weak before the season kicked off, we did nothing about it then and even after Angol picked up his injury we end up with a player no one else wanted. You don't score you don't win, I dont really want to see my manager claiming he doesn't have the players at his disposal when we're only 8 games into the season. I thought the whole idea of bringing in a manager like Adams was to avoid this sort of thing.
     

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