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Players taking the knee

Discussion in 'General Football' started by bantamlad92, Sep 3, 2021.

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What is your stance on City players taking the knee?

  1. Keep doing it indefinitely

    10.6%
  2. Keep doing it for now

    12.0%
  3. Probably needs to stop as it has run its course

    26.1%
  4. Definitely needs to stop now

    31.7%
  5. Not sure / not bothered

    19.7%
  1. Tony Wilkinson

    Tony Wilkinson Squad Player
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    That's weird, I haven't heard a single one explain either way.......
     
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  2. Ulysses S Grant

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    Marxism ? As in Groucho ? That's my opinion, if you don't like it, I have plenty of others.
     
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  3. Storck

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    Wasn't speaking specifically about City players, but I am sure you knew that.
     
  4. Ricky

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    Yet until the Marxists started to kneel the players didn't:rolleyes:
     
  5. SimonW

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    The thing is though it would be like you walking down the street with a swastika on your shirt. Even if it's not one that looks like the Nazi one and you tried to explain that it was a sign of well being, you just wouldn't get away with it. You would be labelled a nazi and you would probably be arrested for hateful conduct and incitement of violence.

    Kneeling might have an origin that is perfectly pure but like the swastika, it's been hijacked by a disgusting organisation and as long as that organisation is still a thing (or groups inspired by it) and are using the symbol then no matter how much the players claim its not en endorsement it's going to be seen by many to be and worst it's going to be used by BLM as propaganda to imply support
     
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  6. Tony Wilkinson

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    Nope, I was generalising...
     
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  7. Storck

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    Exactly the same as people booing it. Whilst some of those doing it are racist scum everyone booing it will be tarred with the same brush no matter how many times they say they aren’t racist
     
  8. Rogered Tart

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    The excellent Jordan Peterson summed up hate crime succinctly with this,

    'Be careful about what you regiulate as speech. Who's gonna regulate it? Who's gonna define hate? That's the real issue, it's not that theres not hate ,there's plenty of it. Question is who defines hate and how is it prosecuted?
     
  9. SimonW

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    I don't think it's exactly the same. We don't see groups of racists adopting booing all players as a 'symbol'. If they were then sure it would be the same as they would have hijacked a 'protest' to push their agenda. The reality is more we have this extreme woke agenda being pushed by a minority who want to project that anything is a racist act as they want to scare people from having opinions so they can push to get treated as superior. It's a tactic that is perfectly highlighted by the trans community who have labelled people like Sharon Davis and Martina Navratilova (And Caitlyn Jenner) as transphobic for them stating they think it wrong for anyone who is an M-F trans to compete as women in any sport where men and women don't compete against each other.

    If people start not just booing everyone when they take a knee and it ends up being booing the black players every time they touch the ball then it's a different situation, then it#s being politicised by a group and its not ok to continue doing but at the moment that's not the case. I suspect most people would be fine with some general solidarity gesture against all forms of bigotry and harassment that football as an entity could own without others baggage then I suspect most would be fine with it
     
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  10. Storck

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    Seems to be a fairly large minority of players doing the kneeling, would even say it was a majority.
     
  11. Tony Wilkinson

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    It is, but through fear only, it will die out naturally eventually, as I have said before, it has to...
     
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  12. Biker

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    So, after all this 29+ pages of cr@p, can someone tell me what’s is actually so wrong with BLM ? And or what is so wrong about taking the knee to raise awareness against racial abuse? I don’t want waffly shite….And youre gonna have to come up with something better than party political esp the farage lovers, and please keep it brief, no cut and paste or multi paragraph or bollox…..

    If you are a racist then you’ve got an instant built in dislike to blm? , please try make some relevant points though on what is so wrong about both BLM and taking the knee…
     
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  13. Faithful Bantam

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    He's a genius that bloke. I could listen to him all day long.
     
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  14. Rogered Tart

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    Why is it 29 pages of crap? Just people discussing a topic on a forum.
     
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  15. Biker

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    You are easily pleased
     
  16. Rogered Tart

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    As
    I have been told that before, usually by the wife.
     
  17. Tony Wilkinson

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    As our daft lads were kneeling today their guy kicked off and passed it backwards, embarrassing from us again...
     
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  18. Storck

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    mans then had to retake it because the game hadn’t started
     
  19. bantamlad92

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    De-funding police?
    Boycotting white businesses?
    Black supremacy?

    To name a few of the sh*tty traits BLM stand for, from the top of my head.
     
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  20. Biker

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    Sorry not accepting any of that that without context.

    ive had a look at their uk website and it seems a sensible non aggressive message, no call to arms to boycott anything, hurt anyone, but repeat , city players taking the knee is not a BLM gesture its just a simple honest show of support against abuse and racism against black people.
     
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